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I bought a Torrent for my wife a couple years ago and she still loves
it. It has been a dependable, good car. She has put close to 60k miles
on it and we have yet to see a problem.
I am sad to see them shut things down and I am far from believing that
the car I bought my wife is a lackluster product.

David Meyer
67 400 T400
 
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From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bob Cisneros
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 10:55 PM
To: First Generation Firebird-L
Subject: Re: [FGF] RIP Pontiac

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Well, I for one am sorry to see Pontiac in this state.  While much of 
their product
of late has been poor, I really did like my 2000 Formula WS6, and I did 
like the
2004-6 GTO, and I do think that the G8s are very good cars.  

I can't just write Pontiac off because of some lackluster product in 
recent years.
Maybe it's because the 5 Firebirds that I've owned over my lifetime, and

the many
great Pontiacs that I didn't own, but felt inspired by.  I still 
remember the day I
saw my first '69 Trans Am.  I was only 14, and that car's image seared 
itself into
my conciousness as I saw it cruising our small town streets for two 
summers before
vanishing, back in the early 70's.

Over the years Bonnevilles, Venturas, GTOs, Tempests, LeMans, Trans Ams
and
Formulas, as well as Safari's, Grand Prix' all made lasting impressions 
on me that
will never go away.  They remind me of a time when Pontiac was the brand

name
that oozed excitement and power.

I'd like to think that the General can get back on it's feet, and when 
it does, that
some really special cars carrying the arrowhead emblem will still be 
among the
product line.  Sadly, some of the people running Pontiac and GM since 
the 70's
were better at running investment companies or building appliances.
They
weren't car guys. Car guys understand the passion people have for the 
automobile.
Clearly, GM's management seemed to lack that understanding at times.

I don't think that the last interesting Pontiacs went away with the loss

of it's own
unique V8. The third and fourth gen Firebirds are proof.  So were the 
Fieros,
Solstices, GTOs, supercharged Grand Prix, and now the G8s.  These were
all
"driver's cars" in the truest sense.

Long live Pontiac.

-Bob Cisneros
http://firstgenfirebird.org/show/closeup.mv?CarID=231
San Jose, CA






On 02/26/09 05:46, Bjorn Sefeldt wrote:
> First Generation Firebird-L Mailing List
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> As far as I`m concerned , they killed Pontiac when they tore its heart
> out...early 80`!
> Recently its only been a differnt bodied Chevy...
>
> Bjorn 
>  69 vert (a REAL Pontiac)/HALF member/Houston ,Tx
>
>
> ++++++++++++++++++++
>
> Subject: Re: [FGF] RIP Pontiac
> From: <[email protected]>
> Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 12:58:23 EST
>
> GM and Pontiac can blame itself. Who ever came up with the  Pontiac
> "Aztec" 
> SUV to camp out in should be put on trial for lunacy. What  a waste of
> money 
> that is now sorely needed. Same can be some for some of the  generic
> bombs they 
> were putting out in the 1980s and 1990s until just  recently. You
could
> not 
> tell if they were a Chevy, Olds or Pontiac. I guess  their idea of
> success was 
> producing rental cars. They pull the plug just as  Pontiac was coming
> out with 
> super racy and slick models.  The G8 GVC is a  super hot car. Great
> American 
> corporate thinking in years past. 
> Al in L.A.  -  69  Convertible
>
>
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