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Joe, Hugo, Thank you for the sub frame comments. I am looking at the Hotchkis. It is pricy though. Larry --- On Sun, 6/28/09, First Generation Firebird-L <[email protected]> wrote: > From: First Generation Firebird-L <[email protected]> > Subject: Firebird-L Digest XI #156 > To: "First Generation Firebird-L" <[email protected]> > Date: Sunday, June 28, 2009, 7:40 PM > First Generation Firebird-L Mailing > List > ......................................................................... > Firebird-L Digest XI #156 - Sunday, June 28, 2009 > > Sub frame help > by <[email protected]> > Re: [FGF] Sub frame help > by "Joe Paoletta" <[email protected]> > Another 69 bites the dust > by "Stu Langer" <[email protected]> > Re: [FGF] Another 69 bites the dust > by "Kevin Young" <[email protected]> > Re: [FGF] Sub frame help > by "Hugo Tafel" <[email protected]> > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: Sub frame help > From: <[email protected]> > Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 02:08:01 -0700 (PDT) > > > Hello list, > > I have been out of the country and lurking in the rear for > several months. I have recently found some time and I > am in the process of rebuilding and then installing a 455 in > my 68 Convertible. The original was prepared by Greg > Merrick but he did a very poor job of it and I pulled the > ehgine out and am selling off whatever good bits that > remain. > > I started over with a low milage engine out a hearse. The > Block Shop, probably the best in Denver, did the machcine > work. It is presently in the assembly stage. > > I am wondering if anyone out there can advise me on the > sub frames to reinforce the the body integity that will be > needed with the higher tourque from the 455. Such things as > Manufacturers, best quality, best design for convertibles. > tips and traps of installation. Other things that should be > replaced while undr the car for the installation > procedure. Etc. > > Also it would seem that the easiet way to install them > would be to load the car with weight representing passengers > and support it level on all four wheels on a lift or some > type of supports and then install and weld the subframes in > place. > > Please any comments or thoughts on this procedure. > Please feel free to critisize and point me in the right > direction for a sucessful installation. > > Larry Diede, > Arvada, Colorado. > Where the scenery is part of your salary. > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: Re: [FGF] Sub frame help > From: "Joe Paoletta" <[email protected]> > Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 05:22:35 -0700 (PDT) > > Don't go crazy. The 455, while strong is not the mountain > motor many may think it is. As i have stated in other posts, > unless you are running slicks and a transbrake, or a stick / > slicks and are planning to dump the clutch, your street > tires will be the weak link and you will lite them up before > you even come close to tweaking the body. > > Again, (don't take offense here) don't over think this > whole subframe thing. And don't give the ol' 455 too much > credit.... > > or are you building a purpose built drag car ? > > Joe > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: Another 69 bites the dust > From: "Stu Langer" <[email protected]> > Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 11:55:58 -0500 > > I just read this on Old Cars Weekly. Another 69 > Firebird destroyed by fire. > > http://www.oldcarsweekly.com/article/Vintage_race_car_destroyed_by_fire/ > > Stu > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: Re: [FGF] Another 69 bites the dust > From: "Kevin Young" <[email protected]> > Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 14:56:27 -0700 (PDT) > > > Sounds like an insurance claim to me.... sorry he used a > firebird to do it..... > > > > > Just Smile... It makes people wonder what > you have been up too... > > http://www.dingdongtx.org/wapa/fb.htm > http://firstgenfirebird.org/show/closeup.mv?CarID=53 > > > Thanks, Kevin > "In God We Trust" > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Stu Langer <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2009 11:55:58 AM > Subject: [FGF] Another 69 bites the dust > > First Generation Firebird-L Mailing List > ......................................................................... > I just read this on Old Cars Weekly. Another 69 > Firebird destroyed by fire. > > http://www.oldcarsweekly.com/article/Vintage_race_car_destroyed_by_fire/ > > Stu > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Submissions to Firebird-L: <[email protected]> > Unsubscribe from Firebird-L: <[email protected]> > Help: <http://FirstGenFirebird.org/firebird/Firebird-L.html> > > Classifieds: <http://FirstGenFirebird.org/ubb/> > Owner Pictures: <http://FirstGenFirebird.org/show/> > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: Re: [FGF] Sub frame help > From: "Hugo Tafel" <[email protected]> > Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 18:39:28 -0700 (PDT) > > Well, as Joe said, the 455 is a great engine but it's not > going to tweak your car unless you are having one built up > to do 600HP or more (just a random number). I've been > running a 455 in mine since 2001 and I don't have subframe > connectors nor the X brace. The body does flex a bit (more > frome the road than the engine). > > This kit from Hotchkis looks very nice (but I don't have > any experience with it first hand): > > http://www.hotchkis.net/6769_camarofirebird_convertible_chassis_max_kit.html > > There aren't too many out there designed for the > convertibles that you don't have to cut through the floor > but this one claims that you don't. I use their anti-sway > bars and I'm very happy with them so I might > consider using this kit when I take the car apart for > paint. > > Hugo > > --- On Sun, 6/28/09, [email protected] > <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > From: [email protected] > <[email protected]> > Subject: [FGF] Sub frame help > To: [email protected] > Date: Sunday, June 28, 2009, 9:08 AM > > > First Generation Firebird-L Mailing List > .......................................................................... > > Hello list, > > I have been out of the country and lurking in the rear for > several months. I have recently found some time and I am > in the process of rebuilding and then installing a 455 in my > 68 Convertible. The original was prepared by Greg Merrick > but he did a very poor job of it and I pulled the ehgine out > and am selling off whatever good bits that remain. > > I started over with a low milage engine out a hearse. The > Block Shop, probably the best in Denver, did the machcine > work. It is presently in the assembly stage. > > I am wondering if anyone out there can advise me on the sub > frames to reinforce the the body integity that will be > needed with the higher tourque from the 455. Such things as > Manufacturers, best quality, best design for convertibles. > tips and traps of installation. Other things that should be > replaced while undr the car for the installation > procedure. Etc. > > Also it would seem that the easiet way to install them > would be to load the car with weight representing passengers > and support it level on all four wheels on a lift or some > type of supports and then install and weld the subframes in > place. > > Please any comments or thoughts on this procedure. Please > feel free to critisize and point me in the right direction > for a sucessful installation. > > Larry Diede, > Arvada, Colorado. > Where the scenery is part of your salary. > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > End of Firebird-L Digest XI > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Submissions to Firebird-L: <[email protected]> > Unsubscribe from Firebird-L: <[email protected]> > Help: <http://FirstGenFirebird.org/firebird/Firebird-L.html> > > Classifieds: <http://FirstGenFirebird.org/ubb/> > Owner Pictures: <http://FirstGenFirebird.org/show/> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Submissions to Firebird-L: <[email protected]> Unsubscribe from Firebird-L: <[email protected]> Help: <http://FirstGenFirebird.org/firebird/Firebird-L.html> Classifieds: <http://FirstGenFirebird.org/ubb/> Owner Pictures: <http://FirstGenFirebird.org/show/>
