On Jul 21, 1:27 am, spstieng <[email protected]> wrote:
> Once I learned how to use Firebug v1.3, I really loved it.
> It wasn't to hard to understand.
>
> As a usability guy, I find v1.4 a step back (unfortunately).
> It's like a completely new product with functionality moved all
> around.
>
> 1. The Off button
> It's really really bad usability to put a new button where the [X]
> button used to be.
> Users are used to click the X button to close the panel, not switching
> it off.
I've already apologized for this mistake.
>
> 2. Blacklist
> "When you push the Firebug Off button, the selected Firefox tab has
> its activation URI added to the blacklist."
>
> Now, why on earth would you do that?
To cause Firebug not to be active for the current web page. Since
FIrebug takes up resources, users want the ability to turn Firebug off
for pages (deactive it).
> Just because I turn Firebug of, doesn't mean I want to blaclist the
> website. And yes, I've clicked the OFF button several times already to
> close the panel.
Perhaps you want to minimize Firebug? Meaning, you want the UI to be
out of the way but you don't want to deactivate it. In that case use
minimize.
>
> So my question is, where do I find this list?
I guess your question is: how can I view the activation URI list?
Currently you can't. The reason is simple: I don't want to write the
code. But anyone else can. Actually this is not completely true: I
would make the list available, but then people will want to add/
remove, then they will want regexp filters, etc. I don't want to work
on this any more.
>
> 3. Menu placements
> You have menues ALL over the application.
Ok so for 1.5 we will change all of the menus, good idea!
>
> Some functionality you'll find when right clicking the icon in the
> bottom RIGHT corner.
> Some functionality you'll find when right clicking the icon in the top
> LEFT corner.
> Some functionality you'll find under Foirefox->Tools-> Firebug
I agree and worse theire does not seem to be any logic to which is
where. More reason to change it all in 1.5!
>
> 4. Every time I reload my localhos page, Firebug is switched off. I'm
> guessing this sis due to the fact that SOMEHOW the URL was
> blacklisted. I never activly blacklisted the site. If I want to do so,
> I will do this by clicking the blacklist button - which is NOT the
> OFF button.
I guess you are making a little joke. Let me know if you really want
help.
>
> And where do I find this blacklist?
>
> 5. In v1.3, there was this great option where I could turn on / off
> Console, Script and Net. I have no idea where this has gone now.
The panel enable/disable is still on the mini-menu of the panel tabs
like 1.3.
>
> Conclution: Don fix it if it works!
> And really don't move functionality all around and replacing old
> functionality with completely new functionality (like the OFF button).
Well except for the option menus right? ;-)
>
> You must try to stay as consistant as possible. If you in 1.5 yet
> again choose to move around on things, I might have to find a new
> tool to debug my site. And my guess is that a lot of other users will
> do so to :(
So do you want us to be consistent with 1.4 or do you want us to fix
the inconsistency in 1.4? I mean seriously: we can make improvements
without changes and every change will have some negative results. The
1.3 [X] implemented minimize and we changed it to [_] to make it more
consistent. Then we get posts like yours.
Since a lot of folks have free advice for me, I'll offer some to the
complainers: instead of starting off with a rant on our already
shipped version, get involved in a positive way. For example a calm
use case for showing the activation list would be much more effective
than yelling that you can't find it.
jjb
jjb
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