I've just followed your instructions regarding installing Firebug
1.5a21 and resetting options.

It *may* have worked, you know. However: I set 'off for all pages',
right? Then I go to the page I'm developing in a tab, enable all
panels - alongside X number of non-work related tabs. Then I'll switch
to another tab e.g. gmail and there Firebug is, still, enabled for the
second tab where I didn't enable it for. Urm....?


On Aug 17, 5:07 pm, johnjbarton <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Aug 17, 7:28 am, dan_m2k <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > I'm interested by johnjbarton's reponses.
>
> > I share the frustration shared by, nroussi, amongst others.
>
> And I am also very frustrated by the current situation.  We have a
> version of Firebug with a bug we cannot fix but everyone thinks the
> problem is a Firebug design problem.
>
>
>
> > I feel that the take-away for this is that the activation model
> > clearly doesn't meet the majority of user's expectations in how it
> > works, in that a lot of users (myself included) feels that it doesn't.
>
> I don't take that away at all. So far all I am hearing is that the
> activation fails to work correctly. Changing the model won't help
> because there is a bug in Firefox that prevents the user from getting
> the correct result no matter what the model says.
>
> I'm going to say the same thing here five differ ways:
>
>   Firebug 1.4 uses page annotation to store activations.
>   Firefox 3.* has a bug in page annotations, it forgets some.
>   Consequently Firebug 1.4 activation fails for some people all of the
> time.
>   Firebug 1.5a21 stores page annotations in text files: it should work
> all of the time.
>
> > It isn't a bug as such, it seems to be a  flaw in the usability in the
> > latest "Vista" release of Firebug. My rationale for this is that
> > seasoned Firebug users simply don't get how it works. I'm still at a
> > loss how to enable this for some sites and not others.
>
> Here's my theory:
>
> The reason the activation fails for you has not a single thing to do
> with usability, design, model, Vista, rationale, seasoned, user-
> understanding or any of this other stuff.
>
> The reason the activation fails for you is simple: a software bug.
>
> You can easily prove my theory wrong: install Firebug 1.5a21, reset
> the Firebug options (eg by Firebug Icon Menu > Options > Reset
> Options). Then try activating a page (open Firebug on that page) or
> deactivating on (Off button for that page).
>
> > As per john's specific comments -- my suggestion would be to go back
> > to an activation model that works in way that users  understand.
>
> First convince me that you've tried our activation solution. I think
> you have been suffering from the page annotation bug.
>
> jjb
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