On Aug 19, 3:14 am, dan_m2k <[email protected]> wrote:
> I've just followed your instructions regarding installing Firebug
> 1.5a21 and resetting options.
>
> It *may* have worked, you know. However: I set 'off for all pages',
> right?
No, do not set Off for all Pages.
> Then I go to the page I'm developing in a tab, enable all
> panels - alongside X number of non-work related tabs. Then I'll switch
> to another tab e.g. gmail and there Firebug is, still, enabled for the
> second tab where I didn't enable it for. Urm....?
This is not correct behavior. Now we need to figure out if we have a
bug or if something you have installed is breaking Firebug. The simple
test is to ask you to install Firebug in a new Firefox profile and
verify it works correctly. It could be another extension including a
Firebug extension.
See for hints: http://groups.google.com/group/firebug/web/faq-about-firebug
jjb
>
> On Aug 17, 5:07 pm, johnjbarton <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > On Aug 17, 7:28 am, dan_m2k <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > I'm interested by johnjbarton's reponses.
>
> > > I share the frustration shared by, nroussi, amongst others.
>
> > And I am also very frustrated by the current situation. We have a
> > version of Firebug with a bug we cannot fix but everyone thinks the
> > problem is a Firebug design problem.
>
> > > I feel that the take-away for this is that the activation model
> > > clearly doesn't meet the majority of user's expectations in how it
> > > works, in that a lot of users (myself included) feels that it doesn't.
>
> > I don't take that away at all. So far all I am hearing is that the
> > activation fails to work correctly. Changing the model won't help
> > because there is a bug in Firefox that prevents the user from getting
> > the correct result no matter what the model says.
>
> > I'm going to say the same thing here five differ ways:
>
> > Firebug 1.4 uses page annotation to store activations.
> > Firefox 3.* has a bug in page annotations, it forgets some.
> > Consequently Firebug 1.4 activation fails for some people all of the
> > time.
> > Firebug 1.5a21 stores page annotations in text files: it should work
> > all of the time.
>
> > > It isn't a bug as such, it seems to be a flaw in the usability in the
> > > latest "Vista" release of Firebug. My rationale for this is that
> > > seasoned Firebug users simply don't get how it works. I'm still at a
> > > loss how to enable this for some sites and not others.
>
> > Here's my theory:
>
> > The reason the activation fails for you has not a single thing to do
> > with usability, design, model, Vista, rationale, seasoned, user-
> > understanding or any of this other stuff.
>
> > The reason the activation fails for you is simple: a software bug.
>
> > You can easily prove my theory wrong: install Firebug 1.5a21, reset
> > the Firebug options (eg by Firebug Icon Menu > Options > Reset
> > Options). Then try activating a page (open Firebug on that page) or
> > deactivating on (Off button for that page).
>
> > > As per john's specific comments -- my suggestion would be to go back
> > > to an activation model that works in way that users understand.
>
> > First convince me that you've tried our activation solution. I think
> > you have been suffering from the page annotation bug.
>
> > jjb
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