On Nov 25, 10:57 am, Raymond  Camden <[email protected]> wrote:
> Maybe I'm missing something, but if FB is closed, I don't expect it to
> gather info. If I open it and have to reload it, that to me is
> perfectly fine, and more desirable, then having FB open when I don't
> request it. I'd expect FB to be doing nothing when closed, and doing
> stuff when open. As it stands, I think most folks do debugging for a
> period of time, so having to open it once and perhaps reload just one
> time is a minimal thing. Right?

Right. So what is the problem?

You say "...having FB open when I don't request it...". I guess you
mean:
  1. Open http://getfirebug.com
  2. Open Firebug
  3. close http://getfirebug.com (the web page, not Firebug).
  4. go on vacation
  5. Open http://getfirebug.com
Firebug opens and you don't want it?

If so, then the issue here is that Firebug does not know you went on
vacation. It has no way to tell the difference between the scenario
above and
  1. Open http://getfirebug.com
  2. Open Firebug
  3. reload http://getfirebug.com
This is the loop many folks use for development.

Plus many users like Firebug to open on the sites they develop on,
without having to do anything. That is how it works, but it means if
you don't want it to open on http://getfirebug.com after you open it,
then you need to turn Firebug off before you close.

(Just to be sure, I assume you are using either 1.4.5 or 1.5b4 and
that you don't have some funky option set, try Firebug Icon Menu >
Options >Reset All).

jjb



>
> On Nov 25, 11:24 am, John J Barton <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> > On Nov 25, 8:48 am, Raymond  Camden <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > For a while now FB has been magically re-opening when I return to a
> > > site where I used FB before. Is there anyway to turn this feature off?
>
> > Yes, click the "off" button for the site, upper right corner.
>
> > > It is extremely annoying. I'd like FB to stay closed until I open it
> > > myself.
>
> > I'm guessing: you want Firebug to be closed always no matter what,
> > then when you want to look at a site, you open it?
>
> > Unfortunately we can't support this in general. Firebug stores
> > information from the start of the web page so that it can show you
> > information like the net panel, script, and console. If Firebug is
> > closed always no matter what then it cannot gather this information.
> > If Firebug is open always no matter what, then we can gather the
> > information, but that will slow down your browser on pages you don't
> > want to study.
>
> > Another workflow works from some users.
> >   1) Right click Firebug status bar icon, Disable All Panels. (reduces
> > the overhead)
> >   2) Left click the Firebug icon, Opening Firebug.
> >   3) Left click the Firebug icon, minimizing Firebug.
> >   4) Visit a new site. Go to #2.
> > Now when you return to a site, Firebug will be either off for the site
> > or minimized, waiting for your command to leap into action. If you
> > primarily work with HTML and CSS, this should be good for you.
>
> > If you need the Net/Console/Script panel for a site, then you have to
> > Right click Enable Panels and reload the page to gather the startup
> > information. Then you start at #1 again.
>
> > jjb
>
>

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