On Nov 25, 12:30 pm, Raymond  Camden <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Nov 25, 2:22 pm, John J Barton <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > You say "...having FB open when I don't request it...". I guess you
> > mean:
> >   1. Openhttp://getfirebug.com
> >   2. Open Firebug
> >   3. closehttp://getfirebug.com(theweb page, not Firebug).
> >   4. go on vacation
> >   5. Openhttp://getfirebug.com
> > Firebug opens and you don't want it?
>
> Correct.
>
> > If so, then the issue here is that Firebug does not know you went on
> > vacation. It has no way to tell the difference between the scenario
> > above and
> >   1. Openhttp://getfirebug.com
> >   2. Open Firebug
> >   3. reloadhttp://getfirebug.com
>
> But doesn't FB know it's current state? Like if I'm on A.com now, and
> it's closed, and I click a link to go to B.com, even if the last time
> I was at B.com it was open, just a second ago it was closed. It knew
> it was closed. I get that it's nice to remember "Hey, last time I was
> on B so let me open again.", but it would be nice to have an option to
> enable/disable it.

The option is "Click off on B.com" ;-)

>
> I guess I see the first scenario as different from your second one. In
> your second one, in the UI, FB is open. It should stay open forever
> until I close it, no matter where I click. Ditto for closing.

You can try Right click "On for All pages" and then "Clear Activation
List" to turn everything off. But I do not recommend these generally.
They fail for most users because they don't really want "On for All
Pages", they want "Read My Mind and Be On When I Think It". We've not
been able to develop that feature ;-).

>
> > Plus many users like Firebug to open on the sites they develop on,
> > without having to do anything. That is how it works, but it means if
> > you don't want it to open onhttp://getfirebug.com afteryou open it,
> > then you need to turn Firebug off before you close.
>
> I guess I'll start closing FB. But do you at least see where this can
> be surprising?

I agree that Firebug's activation behavior is complicated. The core
problem is that users insist on using Firefox for both Firebug and non-
Firebug work. That means we need to be active on some pages and not on
others. So we have to a way for users to tell us which pages they want
to use Firebug on. I suppose a simple On or Off would be less
surprising, but it would also be a lot less useful for lots of users.

jjb

>
> > (Just to be sure, I assume you are using either 1.4.5 or 1.5b4 and
> > that you don't have some funky option set, try Firebug Icon Menu >
> > Options >Reset All).
>
> Yep, running 1.4.5.
>
> As I said, I guess I'll start closing FB when done.

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