Once again I completely agree with @ alfonsoml. I mean, what could these people actually be thinking? Firebug is by far the most popular and widely used web development/debug tool. I still do not understand what is happening here, much less why.
Is firebug actually going way? Why? The firefox tools really suck - they are clearly not created by web developers and are actually worse than the Chrome and IE and Safari tools. Does these folks at Moxilla know they will be alienating their strongest constituency - developers? File a bug report or feature request? This is silly - do they actually not know that every developer uses firebug? Read a book sometime or do a tutorial - they always reference firebug. OK - here's a feature request: 1) please make your tools do **exactly** what firebug does. 2) make it look the same, too That's simple, right? On Tuesday, January 27, 2015 at 10:59:52 AM UTC-5, alfonsoml wrote: > > > > On Monday, January 26, 2015 at 11:03:42 PM UTC+1, Sebastian Zartner wrote: >> >> As mentioned before both teams, the Firebug Working Group and the >> DevTools team are working together to close those usability gaps between >> the DevTools and Firebug. If you have more of those UX things that are >> missing, you should report them >> <https://github.com/firebug/firebug.next/issues/new>. >> >> The real problem is that this situation shouldn't have happened, but the > blindness of the people heading Mozilla is astonishing. > Firefox had the best tool, and instead of working from the start with the > Firebug team, they created a new team that obviously didn't use Firebug and > instead they recreated from scratch everything, throwing away all the > ideas, details, polishment that existed because they thought that they > could do it better. > Now we see "hey, if there's something missing go here and file a bug", not > only from you, other people say the same, but why should we waste our time > filing bugs to make the Firefox dev tools work like it should when there > are already tons of such requests already filed and in the release notes of > Firefox we see that the work is focused on things like web audio, virtual > reality, and the like instead of working on the basics used by 90% of the > people 90% of their time? > > I don't care about that, I just want to be able the see the DOM, edit the > HTML, adjust CSS, find out why something doesn't work, copy those changes, > debug javascript, have breakpoints that work, see the network requests, > with a friendly UI that doesn't makes me wonder in which strange world > those developers live that they think that they can change the whole > browser UI instead of having the browser adapt to my OS. > > If anyone wants to get ideas about how to improve the Firefox dev tools, > they just have to open Firebug, look at each tab, check the options, look > at the context menu, etc... and put all of them back into those "dev > tools". Then look at the work done in Chrome with regards to Mobile > emulation, not just plain window resizing like Firefox, really powerful > emulation and again put all those features there, and the CSS changes pane > in IE, holy cow man, that's better than slided bread. > > Meanwhile they can suggest us to debug other browsers with their tools, > but why should I use a plastic car connected with a wire to a real car to > learn to drive when I can just jump into the real car that has many more > features ? > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Firebug" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/firebug. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/firebug/ea67e466-6bf3-430a-a365-b092a2a69f04%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
