Stephen please describe the usage scenario for your recently submitted bug " 1) please make your tools do **exactly** what firebug does. 2) make it look the same, too "
Please note all of these features are already implemented in Firebug 3.0 and your request would be duplicating features. I am closing this bug. Thanks and have a great day.. And yes, I am trolling after reading several tickets on Github posted by Firebug 3.0 developers responding to people tickets/suggestions (some of which are in this thread) Did they offshore Firebug 3.0 development to some Indian company? On Tuesday, January 27, 2015 at 10:24:50 AM UTC-6, stephen taylor wrote: > > Once again I completely agree with @ alfonsoml. I mean, what could these > people actually be thinking? Firebug is by far the most popular and widely > used web development/debug tool. I still do not understand what is > happening here, much less why. > > Is firebug actually going way? Why? The firefox tools really suck - they > are clearly not created by web developers and are actually worse than the > Chrome and IE and Safari tools. > > Does these folks at Moxilla know they will be alienating their strongest > constituency - developers? > > File a bug report or feature request? This is silly - do they actually > not know that every developer uses firebug? Read a book sometime or do a > tutorial - they always reference firebug. > > OK - here's a feature request: > > 1) please make your tools do **exactly** what firebug does. > 2) make it look the same, too > > That's simple, right? > > On Tuesday, January 27, 2015 at 10:59:52 AM UTC-5, alfonsoml wrote: >> >> >> >> On Monday, January 26, 2015 at 11:03:42 PM UTC+1, Sebastian Zartner wrote: >>> >>> As mentioned before both teams, the Firebug Working Group and the >>> DevTools team are working together to close those usability gaps between >>> the DevTools and Firebug. If you have more of those UX things that are >>> missing, you should report them >>> <https://github.com/firebug/firebug.next/issues/new>. >>> >>> The real problem is that this situation shouldn't have happened, but the >> blindness of the people heading Mozilla is astonishing. >> Firefox had the best tool, and instead of working from the start with the >> Firebug team, they created a new team that obviously didn't use Firebug and >> instead they recreated from scratch everything, throwing away all the >> ideas, details, polishment that existed because they thought that they >> could do it better. >> Now we see "hey, if there's something missing go here and file a bug", >> not only from you, other people say the same, but why should we waste our >> time filing bugs to make the Firefox dev tools work like it should when >> there are already tons of such requests already filed and in the release >> notes of Firefox we see that the work is focused on things like web audio, >> virtual reality, and the like instead of working on the basics used by 90% >> of the people 90% of their time? >> >> I don't care about that, I just want to be able the see the DOM, edit the >> HTML, adjust CSS, find out why something doesn't work, copy those changes, >> debug javascript, have breakpoints that work, see the network requests, >> with a friendly UI that doesn't makes me wonder in which strange world >> those developers live that they think that they can change the whole >> browser UI instead of having the browser adapt to my OS. >> >> If anyone wants to get ideas about how to improve the Firefox dev tools, >> they just have to open Firebug, look at each tab, check the options, look >> at the context menu, etc... and put all of them back into those "dev >> tools". Then look at the work done in Chrome with regards to Mobile >> emulation, not just plain window resizing like Firefox, really powerful >> emulation and again put all those features there, and the CSS changes pane >> in IE, holy cow man, that's better than slided bread. >> >> Meanwhile they can suggest us to debug other browsers with their tools, >> but why should I use a plastic car connected with a wire to a real car to >> learn to drive when I can just jump into the real car that has many more >> features ? >> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Firebug" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/firebug. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/firebug/931de96c-3583-4f9d-a1ea-a8a4500bd737%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
