On Thu, 6 Apr 2000, Burtt, Keith wrote:
> I have a request. I'm in a battle trying to get the company to pay for
> classes to have folks in my group certified. I want all to be certified as
> MSCE, Networking and Unix. The VP I'm dealing with says no one in any other
> company has certified people in their Security Groups. So I'm looking for
The certification argument goes around about every eight months here.
Normally in direct response to security-specific certifications.
It's generally held that *most* certification programs are worth the paper
they're printed on and not one bit more. Traditionally a few of us have
used things like CNE, CNA and MSCE as negative metrics because those who
can walk the walk generally don't need such "credentials" unless working
on government contracts.
The only certification program I'm aware of that has a generally high
regard is the Cisco CCIE. Anyone passing it is probably good for about a
$30,000 raise (since Cisco resellers get a better discount if they have
CCIEs on staff it's a quick ROI for any mid-volume reseller.)
> your views and attempting to locate companies in the Cleveland area I can
> have a conference call with to discuss this with me and the VP. Maybe I'm
> losing it but my views are the security teams should be the cream of the
> crop for investigation purposes, etc.
I know enough people wtih MC* and CN*'s that I wouldn't let anywhere near
a production machine that I don't think it's indicitave of cream of any
crop, but the archives are full of ranting on that subject, so instead
I'll offer this:
If it was my training budget, I'd probably spend it on some basic law,
computer law, computer forensics, etc. classes as well as USENIX/LISA and
SANS, NISSC and CSI conferences (maybe Cisco Networkers as well.)
Make sure you can get them all to USENIX Security, it's still one of the
best events out there.[0]
Paul
[0] I have no affiliation with USENIX other than being a happy member.[1]
[1] Assuming they processed my adderss change, otherwise s/ha/unha/.
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