Blah, blah, blah...........
Certifications are swell and dandy, but a manager who understands his/her
technical needs in a candidate should look at experience first. If an
individual has the ability to put into words the hard core experience they
have, get the interview, and competently support their experience through
question/answer, in the interview, they should get the job. Certifications
are nice paperwork for the wall, but most lower level certs are garbage,
(CNE, MCSE, A+, ....). I think most technical institutions are beginning
to understand this. However, if you wanted say... a CCIE, well you know
they worked their ass off to get this one. The problem, today, is the lack
of great technical people. The demand is so high that paper want-to-be's
come out of the woodwork. I refer to this as the 80 percent rule. -> 80
percent of the technical force out there is at average or below ability.
This leaves only 20 percent of the force to fill the gap.
If you are thinking of getting hard core experience, or a wall flower, go
for the experience.
******** the disclosure: ***********
ALL THOUGHTS ARE MY OWN OPINION AND DO NOT REPRESENT THE THOUGHT OF ANY
COMPANY, AFFILIATE, ETC OF MY INTERACTION>
-----Original Message-----
From: lofting [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, July 16, 1999 10:13 AM
To: Firewalls
Cc: lofting
Subject: RE: Certification
In a highly competitive field, *with all other things remaining equal*, the
nod will likely go to the individual who has *documented proof* that he
possesses a body of knowledge in the field for which he is being considered
and that he has put fourth *a little* extra effort to enhance his value
which *could be* indicative of the additional effort that *may be*
demonstrated in the work place.
-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Bordeaux [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, July 15, 1999 10:19 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Certification
I usually just watch (I get _a lot_ of good info), but I thought I
would
throw my comment in. I have been looking for a sys admin position
(Unix) in the Phoenix metro area. My credentials are 22+ years
(starting with IBM mainframes) in both hardware and software. I
have
10+ years in Unix systems administration (no certificates, my last
job
before obtaining a govt contract rather _generously_ accepted 14
years
of working with them as proof of experience and reason for
advancement). When I see a company, looking for Unix S/A's, asking
for
MCSE's, it seems suprising (except when you accept that HR is doing
the
initial screening). What is really galling is that each company
expects
resumes to be submitted in Microsoft Word format.
Certification (IMHO) demonstrates that you are able to "talk the
talk".
Proven experience demonstrates that you are able to "walk the walk".
Which is better? Better yet, how do you get that point across to
the
gatekeeper of the "first door" (initial candidate selection)?
Todd Bordeaux
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