why don't you try this for a change.
if you are so called experts on security you should not have any problems
with hackers. meantime "experts" are crying and discussing stupid legal
points of hacking/cracking instead of undertaking the steps needed to stop
the hackers/crackers. people! it is possible to stop all attacks.
sorry for being harsh but i can't stand that pointless discussion any more.
regards,
peter
>From: Joel Gridley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: Bryan Andersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: Response to hack attempt?
>Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 05:43:07 -0400 (EDT)
>
>On Wed, 21 Jul 1999, Bryan Andersen wrote:
>
> > Derek Martin wrote:
> >
> > > I once thought that you shouldn't need to care but everyone's trying
>to
> > > make ISPs responsible for the actions of their users, which I
>personally
> > > hate. The only person who should be held responsible for a person's
> > > actions is the person acting. But in our modern society that isn't
> > > enough, we need to have lots of people to blame.
> >
> > And extract money from...
> >
> > They try to attach blame onto the ISP so when time comes to sue
> > for dammages, they have more and likely deeper pockets to extract
> > money from.
> >
>
>In my experience, dealing with the ISP is the only effective way to get
>results. ISP's do not want to be blocked, nor sued, and are usually more
>than willing to work with the entity contacting them.
>
>Specific hosts on the other hand, I have found to be trouble. Some have
>the viewpoint that since they were not personally the ones conducting the
>scans that they are not at fault. Or, since they are not experiencing any
>troubles, like latency, connectivity issues, and have no sensitive
>material on the machine, it is usually a project convincing them to do
>something about it, and that's assuming they know how to do something
>about it.
>
>It's not always monetary motivation. You should start at the machine, but
>then work your way up, to the ISP if you don't get a satisfactory
>response.
>
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