Well, it actually coaches you to take the guilty plea since according to
this paper, you are probably going to be convicted if you go to trial.
Carric Dooley
COM2:Interactive Media
http://www.com2usa.com
On Thu, 22 Jul 1999, Meritt, Jim wrote:
> Oh, I don't doubt in the slightest that many have gone to jail. I just
> doubt that many have gone to TRIAL. Please note that the results of a
> guilty plea are that you go to jail and that may be in a plea bargain.
>
> I hope that your basic tutorial notes that. Otherwise it is sorely amiss.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Carric Dooley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 1999 3:03 PM
> To: Meritt, Jim
> Cc: 'Derek Martin'; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: Re: Kevin fits the mold (was RE: trial & charges
>
>
> I have read papers by two hackers that have been to jail. One was Agent
> Steal, and I have the other paper in some obscure corner on one of myh
> PC's. He got over 4 years. I'd be happy to send the paper to anyone that
> is interested. IT is a basic tutorial on what to do if you get busted.
> =)
>
> Carric Dooley
> COM2:Interactive Media
> http://www.com2usa.com
>
> On Wed, 21 Jul 1999, Meritt, Jim wrote:
>
> > Bet he already knows...
> >
> > Full article at
> > http://www.thestandard.net/articles/display/0,1449,3907,00.html
> >
> > Feds on Reported Mitnick
> > Deal: No Comment
> >
> > By Elinor Mills
> >
> > An assistant U.S. attorney refused to
> > comment Friday on reports that Kevin
> > Mitnick has agreed to plead guilty to
> > computer hacking charges as part of a plea
> > bargain.
> >
> > The prosecutor, David Schindler, confirmed
> > that Mitnick's attorney filed a document
> > under seal this week but wouldn't comment
> > on its contents. Schindler said no court
> > hearing had been scheduled "as of now."
> >
> > An Associated Press report said Mitnick's
> > attorney, Donald Randolph, confirmed the
> > plea bargain. Randolph did not return calls
> > to his office Thursday and Friday."
> >
> > Like I said, plea bargain, no trial. And since HE said he did something
> > wrong...
> > I do agree on the unfair treatment, but that was neither the question nor
> > the issue at hand.
> >
> > I can only think of ONE "hacker" that went to trial, and he was convicted
> by
> > a jury.
> >
> > Jim Meritt, CISSP
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Derek Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 1999 9:05 AM
> > To: Meritt, Jim
> > Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> > Subject: Re: trial & charges
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 21 Jul 1999, Meritt, Jim wrote:
> >
> > > How many have actually made it to trial? What were the charges? I
> > > understand that in almost every case it is hard to "shut up" the
> > > braggard^h^h^h^H^h^h^h^h hacker and a plea bargain is made resulting in
> NO
> > > trial.
> >
> > Tell that to kevin Mitnick. I'm not saying he didn't do anything wrong,
> > but depending on who you believe the charges may have been largely trumped
> > up and he certainly has been treated unfairly, whatever the case.
> >
> >
> > Derek D. Martin | UNIX System Administrator
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