I was thinking more of your overseas people useing the internet to use the
notes web client from your main location, but if your ISP is unreliable I
don't know if anything will really work.
David Lang
On Fri, 17 Sep 1999, Chris Knox
wrote:
> Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 08:57:07 -0700 (MST)
> From: Chris Knox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Pete Goodridge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Re[4]: Marginally on-topic -- Secure remote email access
>
> Yes, Notes has an SSL mail client, but the root of the problem is the
> size of the Notes database. We don't have a reliable international ISP
> with presence in places like Mexico, Brazil and China. And when they
> do, the connection is slow. That and the amount of data that the Notes
> mail virus^H^H^H^H^H agent exchanges during a database synchronization
> leads to pissed off execs which leads to Notes being pulled out and...
> and.... Nice thought, but they'd replace it with MS Exchange.
>
> I'm just trying to get some secure alternatives in place in case the CEO
> gets a real attitude about it and refuses to use it.
>
> I'm also going to investigate further with our Notes administrator and
> maybe bring the Lotus sales tech in.
>
> Meanwhile, thanks to all for the alternative ideas.
>
> cwk
>
>
> According to Pete Goodridge:
> >
> > Either solution would work, but if there are using Notes, and you have
> > to retrain them to use the web mail you'll have other cost issues.
> > (Something about clock radios was mentioned ;) ) Also, not having
> > used Web mail, how do you answer e-mail when you are offline?
> >
> > Now that I think of it, doesn't Notes have it own encryption routines
> > you can use just by turning on one of it's options?
> >
> > THX,
> > Pete Goodridge
> > Abt Associates Inc.
> >
> >
> > ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________
> > Subject: Re: Re[2]: Marginally on-topic -- Secure remote email access
> > Author: David Lang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> at internet
> > Date: 9/16/1999 12:17 PM
> >
> >
> > I personally would prefer to use https rather then one of the tunnel
> > clients for the firewall. i don't trust the remote users to secure their
> > machines enough.
> >
> > While hotmail had (has??) significant security problems, I don't think
> > those problems are becouse of the web access, I believe they were caused
> > by poor decisions of the system designers.
> >
> > David Lang
> >
> > On Thu, 16 Sep 1999, Pete Goodridge wrote:
> >
> > > Is there an remote encrypted client for your current firewall? That
> > > way they could dial a local ISP, and not have to pay for the long
> > > distance call. You also would not have passwords sitting on someone's
> > > "secure" web site, like Hotmail.
> > >
> > > Pete Goodridge
> > > Abt Associates Inc.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ______________________________ Reply Separator
> > _________________________________
> > > Subject: Re: Marginally on-topic -- Secure remote email access
> > > Author: David Lang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> at internet
> > > Date: 9/15/1999 7:41 PM
> > >
> > >
> > > My answer is to provide web based mail for them. There are several
> > > packages out there that will talk POP3 or IMAP to your mail server and
> > > provide a web gateway.
> > >
> > > note, you are still only talking 40 bit encryption, unless you can qualify
> > > for a global certificate (limited to financial/banking interests IIRC) but
> > > this is still better then having the passwords in the clear.
> > >
> > > David Lang
> > >
> > > On Wed, 15 Sep 1999, Chris Knox wrote:
> > >
> > > > Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 16:15:27 -0700 (MST)
> > > > From: Chris Knox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > To: firewalls <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Subject: Marginally on-topic -- Secure remote email access
> > > >
> > > > My company is scattered across North and South America, Europe, Asia,
> > > > Australia and the Pacific Rim. We currently use Notes for internal
> > > > email but the size of the data transfers while databases synch up has
> > > > caused some very expensive phone calls. We're getting a lot of pressure
> > > > to open up POP3 and let users connect accross the Internet. It give me
> > > > heartburn to think of all those passwords being shuttled around in the
> > > > clear from random ISPs in Sao Paulo, Moscow, London and who knows where
> > > > else. To make matters worse the users who travel the most are executives
> > > > and sales types who are -uhm- technologically -uhm- challenged. I.e.
> > > > they are doing well if they can set their clock radio.
> > > >
> > > > Ideas or pointers to a more appropriate forum?
> > > >
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