Balck Ice defender is not a true firewall.. It's basically intrusion
detection.  
You can't set access rules, or block specific ports with defender, all the
other products listed are true port blockers at the least. In the case of
Conseal firewall and winroute tey are even packet filters. Network ice's
site even states that it is intrusin detection and not a true firewall.

Jamy

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BlackICE Defender is a much more evolved product, than most of them, plus 
their documentation even with errors is far superior over the other 
products.

The Radio Ads for MacAfee Personal Firewall sounds kindy of cheesy 
though..

You really want something that is simple enough for my cat to install

/m




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If anyone is interested, here is a summary of the responses I received 
after
requesting suggestions for Personal Firewalls:

ZoneAlarm (3 recommendations)   http://www.zonelabs.com/
McAfee Personal Firewall (Formerly "ConSeal Private Desktop") (3
recommendations)   http://www.mcafee.com/
BlackICE Defender (2 recommendations)   http://www.networkice.com/
WinRoute (1 recommendation)   http://www.tinysoftware.com/
CyberwallPLUS (1 recommendation)   http://www.network-1.com/
GNAT Box (1 recommendation)   http://www.gnatbox.com/
ConSeal PC Firewall (1 recommendation)   http://www.consealfirewall.com/

For the record, I was also pointed to Gibson Research
(http://grc.com/default.htm) which has an online tool for testing how secure
your connection is, and describes a method for adding firewall-like 
protection
to a Windows computer without actually installing a firewall; and I was 
reminded
that VPNs and "insecure nodes" are a dangerous combination -- with or 
without
firewalls.

Thanks again to everyone that responded!

Brant


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