Micheal:
BlackIce does not perform any outbound protection, so if you go that route your
are best to use something else as well.
That is why someone suggested alarmzone, i.e. for the outbound.
There are other products out there for ports on the cheep end.
There is no substitute for a properly configured DMZ.
There is always unknowns. example: Why would you have an "I SPY" web page on
http://www.faithinchaos.com/ ?
"Mail @ faithinchaos.com" wrote:
> I do understand this aspect. But what I don't understand is that people on
> this list are recommending a product that has so many unknowns about it. I
> am wary of unknowns and a complete lack of corporate $ for technical
> support/development to the product.
>
> I am very surprised that I would see "blanket" recommendations of a product
> with no real reasoning and/or thought behind them. At least none that is
> being conveyed to us "lurkers".
>
> I think its relatively easy and inexpensive to install WinGate. Its only
> $40 for a 3-user at-home license. Would I recommend it to anyone? Hell no.
> WinGate has too many known exploits.
>
> BlackIce on the other hand has a good track record for just $40 for the
> personal version - that also comes with a year of tech support. ZoneAlarm
> has... its free and "its so easy to use a monkey could set it up".
>
> This scares me. Most firewall products are somewhat difficult to configure
> for a reason, and its not to make it difficult for the end-admin. Its
> because a secure and well configurable firewall is a tricky beast to
> configure.
>
> Anyway, this still doesn't answer my question of pros and cons (beside the
> money issue). I have never used Zone Alarm, so I have nothing to base basic
> product functionality against.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Gary Currier
> Sent: Friday, July 28, 2000 8:29 PM
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Home Network Security
>
> "Mail @ faithinchaos.com" wrote:
>
> > Anyone care to add WHY they think Zone Alarm is better?
> >
> > Zone Alarm is new, and is freeware. BlackIce is established and is well
> > documented.
> >
> > I would honestly love to hear the pros and cons between the two products.
> >
>
> There are only to reasons to pick ZoneAlarm over BlackIce.
>
> 1. Its free!
> 2. It is so easy to set it up a Monkey could do it.
>
> What more do you need than that. Really it is simple to use and really fast
> to set up maybe 10 minutes start to finish, if your slow. It does do a
> pretty
> decent job. It also does not seem to add enough overhead to notice. I can
> host a game of 8 people and still run my zonealarm without any lags.
> Black Ice may be more secure that I haven't seen proof of but it did cause
> me lag time so I know it added alot more overhead. Other than that not a
> darn bit of difference.
>
> --
> Gary Currier
> Network Systems Manager
> Chrontel Inc.
>
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