Mark Teicher wrote:
> 
> Yes, I agree some of the underlying technical understanding has been lost
> in the last 5 or 6 years.  I recently asked someone if they knew what -i
> switch did in H2n.  Their reply "What's H2n??"
> 

Isn't the sorry state of this list enough of an indication of what's 
happening Out There?

/Mike

PS (long PS, but what the ...)

Not too long ago, I asked an NT administrator with _multiple_
network-related microsoft certs what file sharing protocol 
they used on their internal network (there were some Novell
servers involved, so I couldn't be sure).

The answer was "TCP/IP". 

Q: "You mean you're using NetBIOS over TCP/IP, right?"
A: "No, we use TCP/IP"
Q: "Yes, but what are you running on top of TCP/IP?
    Is it NetBIOS?"
A: "No, we just use TCP/IP"

I'm puzzled. Has Microsoft embraced, extended & engulfed something 
new that I missed? 

I borrow his keyboard and type "netstat -a -n" and, yes, I see 
"139/TCP LISTEN". 
"There", I say, "port 139! You're running NetBIOS over TCP/IP, 
just as I thought".

He looks puzzled, and says, "Wow, I'm glad it's you guys that are
setting up our firewall. You really seem to know your stuff.
What was that command you used? netstat? I never seen it before,
but it looks handy".

Gnngnghghghhh.. 
Nothing against him at all, really. But the again the much-debated
question arises: "What the hell are those certs worth anyhow??"

DS.
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