Hi Paul,

We are all here to learn from others, and to share our knowledge.
The thing is that one can learn facts but can't learn "all the stuff"
just by reading the answer to a single question. Moreover, learning
"all the stuff" is a question of time and patience. Yes, it's good to have
good teachers, good books, good pointers, but that's not all.
The most important is oneself efforts t get "there". If you want it,
you'll be "there". It's all in your hands. All the rest is "negociable"!

good luck....

anyway, hre are some links, if it ever helps...
(these are almost random links. don't think that I've done
any selection effort here.)

FW mailing list: http://lists.gnac.net/firewalls/
Coast: http://www.cerias.purdue.edu/coast/archive/index.html
http://security.dstc.qut.edu.au/
hackers news: http://www.hackernews.com/orig/whyvuln.html
security focus: http://www.hackernews.com/orig/whyvuln.html
phrack: http://www.phrack.com/main-index.html
security portal: http://securityportal.com/
freefire: http://sites.inka.de/lina/freefire-l/index.en.html
nist comp sec: http://csrc.nist.gov/publications/welcome.html
The Hawks sec links: http://www.dbnet.ece.ntua.gr/~george/security/
http://www.security.za.net/
ipfilter: http://coombs.anu.edu.au/~avalon/ip-filter.html
netfilter: http://www.samba.org/netfilter/
opensec: http://www.opensec.net/
IT sec pages: http://www.boran.com/security/
linuxsec: http://www.linuxsecurity.com/resource_files/firewalls/nsc/500619.html
snort: http://www.snort.org/
Net presence Gauntlet info pages: 
http://www.netpr.com/tools_resources/gauntlet/
fw forensics: http://www.robertgraham.com/pubs/firewall-seen.html
.... there are tooooooo many....


At 08:22 20/11/00 -0800, Paul Done wrote:
>Kelly-
>
>I won't join in the bashing (although deserved) of your companies "secuirty
>policy", but would be interested in learning more in this area. For this
>reason I have joined this list. My organization has someone that does this,
>but lacks the teaching/people skills to effectively teach. If the members of
>this list provide you with resources or you would be willing to share the
>type of trainign you received I think that could be the greatest benefit. We
>all have our strengths, but the wise ones notice their weaknesses.
>
>Good luck, my hats off to you for braving the cyber world in this way.
>
>Cheers,

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