well this works both ways
the govt., military, and various federal agencies have horrendous
record on security. but who holds them accountable? no one.
lets sue them and get a bigger tax refund than just $300! <G> :)
On Mon, 11 Jun 2001, Ron DuFresne wrote:
>
> Yes, but, in most states it is illegal to leave your car running, and in
> most even if the car is locked. So, if that car is warming on a cold
> winter day, and is stolen while left in such condition, one has broken the
> law.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ron DuFresne
>
> On Mon, 11 Jun 2001, Webmaster wrote:
>
> > Ken,
> > To clarify, you say that if I leave my keys in the car and the door unlocked
> > and someone steals the car and kills someone with it, I'm partially liable?
> > That's stretching it a bit...I think the burden should fall squarely on the
> > shoulders of the person that stole the car. Please don't think that this
> > means that *every* situation like this is the same. But I don't think we
> > need to start putting the folks that can't remember to tie their shoes in
> > jail...
> > Michael Sorbera
> > Webmaster
> > Randolph-Brooks Federal Credit Union
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Claussen, Ken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "'Zachary Uram'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Young, Beth A.'"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 11:30 AM
> > Subject: RE: 3rd party liability Was RE: This is a must read document
> >
> >
> > > ***Disclaimer I am not a lawyer, nor do I play one on TV****
> > > First I agree with the author's perspective, people should be held
> > > accountable for their actions, or inaction. My understanding of the
> > article
> > > was if you had the club on the car then you upheld the "reasonable
> > > expectation" of personal protection and therefore would not be "Held
> > > liable"(read negligent) in this case should a crime be committed. A better
> > > analogy would be to say if you left the keys in the ignition and the door
> > > unlocked and someone then used your vehicle to commit a "Hit and Run" that
> > > there is a far greater likelihood your actions would be found negligent
> > and
> > > you could be held accountable. In other words if you provided easy access
> > > to the "Weapon" for a third party, then you are as much as fault as the
> > > person who committed the crime. Hence the potential to be charged as an
> > > "accomplice" to a murder. Same applies to computers, if you enable "File
> > and
> > > Print sharing" and do not take measures to protect yourself, IE a Virus
> > > scanner and/or (IMO both should be required) personal firewall then
> > > essentially you have left the keys in the ignition and the doors unlocked.
> > > Anyone for a joyride?
> > >
> > > Ken Claussen MCSE CCNA CCA
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > "The Mind is a Terrible thing to Waste!"
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Zachary Uram
> > > Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 10:59 AM
> > > To: Young, Beth A.
> > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: 3rd party liability Was RE: This is a must read document
> > >
> > >
> > > this is silly position but understandable considering we live in
> > > most litigitous country in the world.
> > > this is analogous to saying if you don't have "The Club" on your
> > > car you are liable if someone steals it and commits a crime.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > "Blessed are those who have not seen and yet have faith." - John 20:29
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