Actually here is the exact statement: https://www.isc2.org/cgi-bin/content.cgi?page=171
"Beginning June 1, 2002, (ISC)2 is dividing the credentialing process into two steps: examination and certification. The rules for examination remain the same. Once a CISSP candidate has been notified of passing the examination, he/she will be required to have the application endorsed by a qualified third party before the CISSP credential is awarded. Another CISSP, the candidate's employer, or any licensed, certified or commissioned professional may endorse a CISSP candidate." Mike -----Original Message----- From: Security Related [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 8:22 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: CISSP That sounds like a bad idea, basically it means that if you don't already know a CISSP (of which there are not all THAT many), you are in a position of having to convince someone who doesn't know you to vouch for you. sounds great. Don't get me wrong, I like that they want the cert to retain it's value I just don't know that I like that method. ES --- ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Bill Royds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "John Maestrale" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: CISSP Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 23:16:06 -0400 It may be of interest the (ISC)2, the CISSP certificate granting body, intends to ask for an already certified CISPP to vouch for your experience before granting you the certification. This will probably start as of June 1 this year. They are really tightening up the certification rules to make it much more than a memory work exercise. Bill Royds, CISSP -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of John Maestrale Sent: Tue May 14 2002 16:27 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: CISSP Don't bother with the classes they are horrible. Use the study guides from SRVBOOKS. John Maestrale,SSCP Network Engineer National Board of Medical Examiners email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 2:34 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Firewalls digest, Vol 1 #763 - 19 msgs Send Firewalls mailing list submissions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.gnac.net/mailman/listinfo/firewalls or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can reach the person managing the list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Firewalls digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: CISSP (ecklesd) 2. Re: CISSP (ecklesd) 3. Any experience with CheckPoint VPN client getting through Cisco PIX firewall? ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 4. NT Syslog client ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 5. Re: Any experience with CheckPoint VPN client getting through Cisco PIXfirewall? (Mikael Olsson) 6. RE: NT Syslog client (Clark, Steve) 7. Re: Firewalls digest, Vol 1 #762 - 8 msgs (Guojia Zhang) 8. Re: NT Syslog client (Mikael Olsson) 9. Re: Logging to Ciscoworks (Mikael Olsson) 10. Re: NT Syslog client (Bret Watson) 11. Winroute Pro (Vishal Mukherjee) 12. Re: CISSP ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 13. CheckPoint FireWall-1 (NG) on Nokia's IP 530 throughput question ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 14. CheckPoint FireWall-1 (NG) on Nokia's IP 530 throughput question ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 15. Re: Any experience with CheckPoint VPN client getting through Cisco PIXfirewall? ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 16. RE: Any experience with CheckPoint VPN client getting through Cisco PIXfirewall? (Ben Nagy) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: "ecklesd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: CISSP Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 06:33:27 -0400 Chris, You can get a copy of the Study Guide by going to http://www.isc2.org/studyguide You will need to apply, but it does not cost anything. Lance ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Orr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2002 5:15 PM Subject: CISSP > I've been reading up on the CISSP. While I don't have the $$$$ to attend classes, can some of you recommend some books that you have used to obtain your designation. > Thanks, > Chris > _______________________________________________ > Firewalls mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For Account Management (unsubscribe, get/change password, etc) Please go to: > http://lists.gnac.net/mailman/listinfo/firewalls > --__--__-- Message: 2 From: "ecklesd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: CISSP Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 06:35:10 -0400 Actually checking that again I see that they have changed the process .. here is the new link: https://www.isc2.org/cgi-bin/request_studyguide.cgi Lance ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Orr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2002 5:15 PM Subject: CISSP > I've been reading up on the CISSP. While I don't have the $$$$ to attend classes, can some of you recommend some books that you have used to obtain your designation. > Thanks, > Chris > _______________________________________________ > Firewalls mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For Account Management (unsubscribe, get/change password, etc) Please go to: > http://lists.gnac.net/mailman/listinfo/firewalls > --__--__-- Message: 3 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Any experience with CheckPoint VPN client getting through Cisco PIX firewall? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 12:52:15 +0200 This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 003B7ECCC1256BB9_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi, The idea is to install CheckPoint VPN-1 SecureClients (v4.1 SP5 3DES) on external network PCs to have them vpn through the remote network Cisco PIX firewall to our CheckPoint VPN-1/FW-1 (currently version 4.1 SP5). I'm lookiing for possible issues with encrypted CP packets getting through Cisco PIX firewall - any ideas, please ? Thanks, Artur --=_alternative 003B7ECCC1256BB9_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" <br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Hi,</font> <br> <br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">The idea is to install CheckPoint VPN-1 SecureClients (v4.1 SP5 3DES) on external network PCs to have them vpn through the remote network Cisco PIX firewall to our CheckPoint VPN-1/FW-1 (currently version 4.1 SP5).</font> <br> <br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">I'm lookiing for possible issues with encrypted CP packets getting through Cisco PIX firewall - any ideas, please ?</font> <br> <br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Thanks,<br> Artur</font> --=_alternative 003B7ECCC1256BB9_=-- --__--__-- Message: 4 Subject: NT Syslog client To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 12:25:13 +0100 Hi All, I am still looking for an NT syslog client (preferably "freeware")............. does anybody know of one ? All I need to be able to do is to send a user-generated record to a syslog server on another platform using port 514. Thanks, Gordon --__--__-- Message: 5 Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 14:00:20 +0200 From: Mikael Olsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Organization: Clavister AB To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Any experience with CheckPoint VPN client getting through Cisco PIXfirewall? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > The idea is to install CheckPoint VPN-1 SecureClients (v4.1 SP5 3DES) on > external network PCs to have them vpn through the remote network Cisco > PIX firewall to our CheckPoint VPN-1/FW-1 (currently version 4.1 SP5). > > I'm lookiing for possible issues with encrypted CP packets getting > through Cisco PIX firewall - any ideas, please ? Two "if"s here: - IF the pix is picky about layer size mismatches and - IF checkpoint still hasn't fixed their broken encapsulation, the problem is probably checkpoint encapsulation building b0rken datagrams. I don't remember the specifics, but we got a support case a while ago with someone running checkpoint VPNs through our boxes, and having our stuff complain about layer size mismatches. I think it was something like the IP header saying the datagram had 1480 bytes IP data and the UDP header saying the total UDP length was only 1472 bytes. (These two numbers should be identical). As I said, I'm not 100% sure about the specifics here. I could go dig in the support DB if you need more info. /Mikael -- Mikael Olsson, Clavister AB Storgatan 12, Box 393, SE-891 28 �RNSK�LDSVIK, Sweden Phone: +46 (0)660 29 92 00 Mobile: +46 (0)70 26 222 05 Fax: +46 (0)660 122 50 WWW: http://www.clavister.com "Senex semper diu dormit" --__--__-- Message: 6 From: "Clark, Steve" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: #Firewalls <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: NT Syslog client Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 08:08:25 -0400 Kiwi Syslog is free. Steve Clark Clark Systems Support, LLC AVIEN Charter Member "Who's watching your network?" www.clarksupport.com 301-610-9584 voice 240-465-0323 Efax The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 7:25 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: NT Syslog client Hi All, I am still looking for an NT syslog client (preferably "freeware")............. does anybody know of one ? All I need to be able to do is to send a user-generated record to a syslog server on another platform using port 514. Thanks, Gordon _______________________________________________ Firewalls mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] For Account Management (unsubscribe, get/change password, etc) Please go to: http://lists.gnac.net/mailman/listinfo/firewalls --__--__-- Message: 7 Subject: Re: Firewalls digest, Vol 1 #762 - 8 msgs To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: "Guojia Zhang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 08:09:19 -0400 Hi, I'm trying to evaluate low-end models from NetScreen, Cisco, and Nokia...as i'm new to firewalls, i would greatly appreciate some direction. from a price/performance and managebility perspective, which would you recommend. The network i have in mind is a headquarter LAN with 20 users, one branch office with 6 users, and 4 telecommuters. Any good/bad experiences with any vendor?? Thanks much. --__--__-- Message: 8 Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 14:12:36 +0200 From: Mikael Olsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Organization: Clavister AB To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: NT Syslog client [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I am still looking for an NT syslog client Netcat for win32 Google for "nc.exe". just do: echo "<n> My message" | nc 1.2.3.4 514 where n is the facility/precedence bitmask, which you can look up in the syslog RFC (yes, they finally got around to documenting it :)) -- Mikael Olsson, Clavister AB Storgatan 12, Box 393, SE-891 28 �RNSK�LDSVIK, Sweden Phone: +46 (0)660 29 92 00 Mobile: +46 (0)70 26 222 05 Fax: +46 (0)660 122 50 WWW: http://www.clavister.com "Senex semper diu dormit" --__--__-- Message: 9 Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 14:22:15 +0200 From: Mikael Olsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Organization: Clavister AB To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Logging to Ciscoworks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Using a script , syslog.conf, and "logger" there, I can get the data into > the Ciscoworks syslog file ("syslog_info") but it doesn't have the right > origin address, facility code, or severity level for Ciscoworks to pick it > up. Oh, that's what you meant by syslog client. (Sorry, I read your messages in the wrong order.) Can't you just reformat the "syslog" data file using perl or gawk? The syslog format isn't _that_ advanced -- heck, even a regular sed pattern ought to be able to fix your origin/facility/severity strings. -- Mikael Olsson, Clavister AB Storgatan 12, Box 393, SE-891 28 �RNSK�LDSVIK, Sweden Phone: +46 (0)660 29 92 00 Mobile: +46 (0)70 26 222 05 Fax: +46 (0)660 122 50 WWW: http://www.clavister.com "Senex semper diu dormit" --__--__-- Message: 10 Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 20:34:42 +0800 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Bret Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: NT Syslog client Go to sourceforge.net - there is one there, though I can't remember exactly the URL right now - we use it and it appears to be quite stable. Bret At 12:25 14/05/02 +0100, you wrote: >Hi All, >I am still looking for an NT syslog client (preferably >"freeware")............. does anybody know of one ? >All I need to be able to do is to send a user-generated record to a syslog >server on another platform using port 514. >Thanks, Gordon Technical Incursion Countermeasures www.ticm.com The Insider www.ticm.com/info/insider --__--__-- Message: 11 From: Vishal Mukherjee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Winroute Pro Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 17:20:43 +0530 Hi all No one talk of winroute pro? Is it outdateed or a very small firewall.. Regards Vishal Visit Our Cement Site at http://www.indorama.co.in Our Software Site at http://www.irssl.com --__--__-- Message: 12 Subject: Re: CISSP To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 08:08:15 -0500 Chris, I used the Information Security Handbook by Hal Tipton and Micki Kruse. That was the only study material I used. There is also a study guide at www.isc2.org. Regards, Jeffery Gieser I've been reading up on the CISSP. While I don't have the $$$$ to attend classes, can some of you recommend some books that you have used to obtain your designation. Thanks, Chris --__--__-- Message: 13 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CheckPoint FireWall-1 (NG) on Nokia's IP 530 throughput question From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 15:34:37 +0200 This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 004A5C83C1256BB9_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi, Can you please pass any information on the throughput (both theoretical and practical) of CheckPoint FireWall-1 (v.4.1) on Nokia's IP 440 and 530 ? Many thanks, Artur --=_alternative 004A5C83C1256BB9_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" <br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Hi,</font> <br> <br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Can you please pass any information on the throughput (both theoretical and practical) of CheckPoint FireWall-1 (v.4.1) on Nokia's IP 440 and 530 ?</font> <br> <br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Many thanks,</font> <br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Artur</font> <br> --=_alternative 004A5C83C1256BB9_=-- --__--__-- Message: 14 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CheckPoint FireWall-1 (NG) on Nokia's IP 530 throughput question From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 15:36:43 +0200 This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 004A8DA7C1256BB9_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi, Can you please pass any information on the throughput (both theoretical and practical) of CheckPoint FireWall-1 (NG) on Nokia IP 530 ? Many thanks, Artur --=_alternative 004A8DA7C1256BB9_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" <br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Hi,</font> <br> <br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Can you please pass any information on the throughput (both theoretical and practical) of CheckPoint FireWall-1 (NG) on Nokia IP 530 ?</font> <br> <br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Many thanks,</font> <br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Artur</font> <br> --=_alternative 004A8DA7C1256BB9_=-- --__--__-- Message: 15 To: Mikael Olsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Any experience with CheckPoint VPN client getting through Cisco PIXfirewall? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 15:35:53 +0200 This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 004A79EBC1256BB9_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mikael, I'd really appreciate if you could confirm this - I really have to know if = I'm going to be successful with sending encrypted CP SecuRemote packets=20 through Cisco PIX firewall before I deploy it. Thanks, Artur Mikael Olsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 05/14/2002 02:00 PM =20 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Any experience with CheckPoint VPN client getti= ng through Cisco=20 PIXfirewall? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > The idea is to install CheckPoint VPN-1 SecureClients (v4.1 SP5 3DES) on > external network PCs to have them vpn through the remote network Cisco > PIX firewall to our CheckPoint VPN-1/FW-1 (currently version 4.1 SP5). > > I'm lookiing for possible issues with encrypted CP packets getting > through Cisco PIX firewall - any ideas, please ? Two "if"s here: - IF the pix is picky about layer size mismatches and - IF checkpoint still hasn't fixed their broken encapsulation, the problem is probably checkpoint encapsulation building b0rken datagrams. I don't remember the specifics, but we got a support case a while ago with someone running checkpoint VPNs through our boxes, and having our stuff complain about layer size mismatches. I think it was something like the IP header saying the datagram had 1480 bytes IP data and the UDP header saying the total UDP length was only 1472 bytes. (These two numbers should be identical). As I said, I'm not 100% sure about the specifics here. I could go dig in the support DB if you need more info. /Mikael -- Mikael Olsson, Clavister AB Storgatan 12, Box 393, SE-891 28 =D6RNSK=D6LDSVIK, Sweden Phone: +46 (0)660 29 92 00 Mobile: +46 (0)70 26 222 05 Fax: +46 (0)660 122 50 WWW: http://www.clavister.com "Senex semper diu dormit" --=_alternative 004A79EBC1256BB9_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <br><font size=3D2 face=3D"sans-serif">Mikael,</font> <br> <br><font size=3D2 face=3D"sans-serif">I'd really appreciate if you could c= onfirm this - I really have to know if I'm going to be successful with send= ing encrypted CP SecuRemote packets through Cisco PIX firewall before I dep= loy it.</font> <br> <br><font size=3D2 face=3D"sans-serif">Thanks,<br> Artur</font> <br> <br> <br> <table width=3D100%> <tr valign=3Dtop> <td> <td><font size=3D1 face=3D"sans-serif"><b>Mikael Olsson <mikael.olsson@c= lavister.com></b></font> <p><font size=3D1 face=3D"sans-serif">05/14/2002 02:00 PM</font> <br> <td><font size=3D1 face=3D"Arial"> </font> <br><font size=3D1 face=3D"sans-serif"> To: &nbs= p; [EMAIL PROTECTED]</font> <br><font size=3D1 face=3D"sans-serif"> cc: &nbs= p; [EMAIL PROTECTED]</font> <br><font size=3D1 face=3D"sans-serif"> Subject:= Re: Any experience with CheckPoint VPN client g= etting through Cisco PIXfirewall?</font></table> <br> <br> <br> <br><font size=3D2><tt>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:<br> ><br> > The idea is to install CheckPoint VPN-1 SecureClients (v4.1 SP5 3DES) = on<br> > external network PCs to have them vpn through the remote network Cisco= <br> > PIX firewall to our CheckPoint VPN-1/FW-1 (currently version 4.1 SP5).= <br> ><br> > I'm lookiing for possible issues with encrypted CP packets getting<br> > through Cisco PIX firewall - any ideas, please ?<br> </tt></font> <br><font size=3D2><tt>Two "if"s here:<br> - IF the pix is picky about layer size mismatches<br> and<br> - IF checkpoint still hasn't fixed their broken encapsulation,<br> </tt></font> <br><font size=3D2><tt>the problem is probably checkpoint encapsulation bui= lding b0rken<br> datagrams. I don't remember the specifics, but we got a support<br> case a while ago with someone running checkpoint VPNs through our<br> boxes, and having our stuff complain about layer size mismatches.<br> I think it was something like the IP header saying the datagram<br> had 1480 bytes IP data and the UDP header saying the total UDP<br> length was only 1472 bytes. (These two numbers should be identical).<br> </tt></font> <br><font size=3D2><tt>As I said, I'm not 100% sure about the specifics her= e. I could<br> go dig in the support DB if you need more info.<br> </tt></font> <br><font size=3D2><tt>/Mikael<br> </tt></font> <br><font size=3D2><tt>--<br> Mikael Olsson, Clavister AB<br> Storgatan 12, Box 393, SE-891 28 =D6RNSK=D6LDSVIK, Sweden<br> Phone: +46 (0)660 29 92 00 Mobile: +46 (0)70 26 222 05<br> Fax: +46 (0)660 122 50 WWW: http://www.clavister.com<b= r> </tt></font> <br><font size=3D2><tt>"Senex semper diu dormit"</tt></font> <br> <br> --=_alternative 004A79EBC1256BB9_=-- --__--__-- Message: 16 From: "Ben Nagy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: Any experience with CheckPoint VPN client getting through Cisco PIXfirewall? Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 16:00:40 +0200 1. Set your Checkpoint client to use UDP encapsulation mode. 2. Configure the PIX to have a static for the FW-1, and have an access list that permits UDP 2746 through to the FW-1 (and whatever other ACL stuff you may need). Done. All the other solutions involve using nat 0 on the PIX which, although it may work, isn't really recommended. Cheers, -- Ben Nagy Network Security Specialist Mb: TBA PGP Key ID: 0x1A86E304 -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 12:52 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Any experience with CheckPoint VPN client getting through Cisco PIXfirewall? Hi, The idea is to install CheckPoint VPN-1 SecureClients (v4.1 SP5 3DES) on external network PCs to have them vpn through the remote network Cisco PIX firewall to our CheckPoint VPN-1/FW-1 (currently version 4.1 SP5). I'm lookiing for possible issues with encrypted CP packets getting through Cisco PIX firewall - any ideas, please ? 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