Ahh, yes that issue, brought on by the 14 year old Inian lad that passed
the exam and also had the required on the job experience.  I figure if a
person, even at 14 has the skills and the experience, then matters should
be fine, this is not something that will happen every day for sure.
Still, how about some of us folks that have 16+ years in the IT market,
with 8+ years on security as a focus, and while not having a BA, still
have 250+ college credits behind them?  Even most employers will trade a
degree for on the job experience, does this apply for the CISSP?

Thanks,

Ron DuFresne


On Wed, 15 May 2002, Chris Kirschke wrote:

> It doesn't say that you have to have a CISSP vouch for you. Another "qualified" 
>person, employer, or "certified" person will have to vouch for you. As to what the 
>ISC2 deems as "certified" and "qualified" we'll have to wait and see. My biggest 
>bitch is with the 4 year degree requirement in 2003. Having only a GED, this will 
>definitely force me to take the exam soon. I know many folks that skip the college 
>route to go into either the networking or security fields and generally they end up 
>doing quite allright professionally.
>
> Oh well,
>
> Chris Kirschke
>
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>       I agree whole heartily. I have a ton of security experience
>       and I am planning on taking the exam in July. I don't
>       know any CISSP's at all (even casually). I am the only
>       security person at my company. How on earth could they
>       expect a total stranger to vouch for me? Why would not
>       knowing a CISSP be a reason to disqualify you from
>       getting certified?
>
>       Mike
>
>       > That sounds like a bad idea, basically it means that
>       > if you don't already know a CISSP (of which there are
>       > not all THAT many), you are in a position of having
>       > to convince someone who doesn't know you to vouch for
>       > you. sounds great. Don't get me wrong, I like that
>       > they want the cert to retain it's value I just don't
>       > know that I like that method.
>       >
>       > ES
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