At 08:12 PM 19/07/2010, Stanley N Salthe wrote:
>Has anyone suggested the function of contact sports to be the 'moral
>equivalent' of war. Many young men requires this kind of excitement
>because of their hormone mix.
Apparently societies with less contact and competitve sports also
tend to be less violent. My source: E.O. Wilson, On Human Nature,
chapter on aggression. That doesn't defeat the connection of an
alternative, though, in constitutionally more violent societies.
John
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Stanley N Salthe escribió:
Has anyone suggested the function of contact sports to be the 'moral
equivalent' of war. Many young men requires this kind of excitement
because of their hormone mix.
STAN
On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 10:55 AM, Pedro C. Marijuan
<pcmarijuan.i...@aragon.es <mailto:pcmarijuan.i...@aragon.es>> wrote:
Dear FISers,
Looking for an informational explanation of soccer, or other
sports, as was asking Joseph, one can look at the internal side of
the event. Then, as Jorge and Bob have done, one can discuss about
the panorama of networking relationships or the "ascendancy" of
the different elements. While agreeing with the interest of these
approaches, one can also look towards the outside and ask about
the social importance attributed to such type of spectacles. It is
interesting that today a lot of economic activities, like sports,
may be ascribed to ephemeral "information production" --think of
entertainment, news, fashions, e-networks, communications,
tourism, etc. Maybe this is the fastest growing segment, even in
spite of the global crisis. Why the increasing predominance of
"panem et circenses"?
An speculative point may be that complex societies are caught into
a information paradox. The higher they grow in their aggregate
complexity the lower the structure of basic social relations (and
interesting information) around the individual. According to
Dunbar's "social brain hypothesis", these complex societies
deviate progressively from the evolutionary networking structure
of our species. Thus "info" surrogates of whatever type are more
and more necessary for the individual and for the society as a
whole, although probably they are working worse and worse. If this
is so, it makes sense that in the "information era" depression has
become the first incapacitating pathology (above flu).
Unfortunately, the victory at the world championship has been so
ephemeral!
best wishes
Pedro
PS. As a question to Karl: in what extent are directed graphs (or
generic networks) equivalent to multidimensional partitions? Would
it make sense the description of "ascendancy" in terms of partitions?
Robert Ulanowicz escribió:
Dear Jorge and Fis members:
The method is intriguing, but rather ad-hoc.
I and colleagues in marine science have directly used
information-theoretic indexes to evaluate the dynamically most
important nodes and links in a quantified network. I'm convinced it
could be applied as well to players on a team:
Ulanowicz, R.E. and D. Baird. 1999. Nutrient controls on ecosystem
dynamics: The Chesapeake mesohaline community. J. Mar.
Sys. 19:159-172
The best,
Bob Ulanowicz
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Quoting Jorge Navarro López <jnavarro.i...@aragon.es>
<mailto:jnavarro.i...@aragon.es>:
Dear FIS collegaes,
Hi! This is my first posting in the list. My name is Jorge Navarro
and I am working with Pedro on Systems Biology and Network Science.
Following with Joseph proposal I have found an interesting paper
about a satisfactory theory of information applicable to teamwork
sports:
*Quantifying the Performance of Individual Players in a Team Activity*
http://www.plosone.org/article/info:doi/10.1371/journal.pone.0010937
I think that formally one can say a lot about what teamship
activities become interesting and exciting to watch, and what other
activities are dull and boring.
I was playing soccer myself until a few years ago (forward), like
Villa :-), and I am very interested in the informational side of
sports, soccer of course.
VIVA ESPAÑA!!!
Kind Regards
Jorge
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