Meaning is a social function (G.H.Mead). The meaning can be simply identifying
by looking what habits it produces (C.S.Peirce), the meaning of a word is its
use (late Wittgenstein, Philosophical Investigations). There remains no
question about "meaning" so far. This problem is finally solved.
Best
Guenther
Am 20.06.2015 um 22:33 schrieb Jerry LR Chandler:
> List:
>
> My opinions categorically reject the shallow proposition below which ignores
> the foundational logic.
>
> The biological sciences focus on life itself.
> The scientific foundation of biological information is included under the
> notion of Foundation of Information Science.
>
> The adjectives "cognitive" and "computational" and "linguistic" do not
> influence the meaning the foundation of the science, they are merely
> descriptors of sub-aspects of the science or incomplete perspectives of
> biology.
>
> The post introduces the proposition that these three adjectives are not even
> modifiers of the meaning of biology, mere metaphors, each of which can carry
> a vast array of meanings.
>
> Personally, I am rather fond of elephants and find this slight of elephants,
> one of mother nature's greatest achievements, unwarranted.
>
> Cheers
>
> Jerry
>
>
> On Jun 19, 2015, at 7:52 PM, howlbl...@aol.com wrote:
>
>> re: cognitive biology vs computational biology.
>>
>> may i suggest that you add yet one more approach to the list: linguistic
>> biology. per the work of Guenther Witzany. also reflected in my book The
>> God Problem: How a Godless Cosmos Creates.
>>
>> each approach uses a helpful metaphor. no one approach sees the elephant in
>> its entirety. so please let us use all three.
>>
>> with oomph--howard
>>
>> ----------------------
>> Howard Bloom
>> Howardbloom.net
>> Author of: The Lucifer Principle: A Scientific Expedition Into the Forces of
>> History ("mesmerizing"-The Washington Post),
>> Global Brain: The Evolution of Mass Mind From The Big Bang to the 21st
>> Century ("reassuring and sobering"-The New Yorker),
>> The Genius of the Beast: A Radical Re-Vision of Capitalism ("A tremendously
>> enjoyable book." James Fallows, National Correspondent, The Atlantic),
>> The God Problem: How A Godless Cosmos Creates("Bloom's argument will rock
>> your world." Barbara Ehrenreich),
>> How I Accidentally Started the Sixties (“Wow! Whew! Wild! Wonderful!”
>> Timothy Leary), and
>> The Mohammed Code (“A terrifying book…the best book I’ve read on Islam.”
>> David Swindle, PJ Media).
>> Former Core Faculty Member, The Graduate Institute; Former Visiting
>> Scholar-Graduate Psychology Department, New York University
>> Founder: International Paleopsychology Project. Founder: The Group Selection
>> Squad; Founder, Space Development Steering Committee. Board Member and
>> Member Of Board Of Governors, National Space Society. Founding Board Member:
>> Epic of Evolution Society. Founding Board Member, The Darwin Project.
>> Founder: The Big Bang Tango Media Lab. Member: New York Academy of Sciences,
>> American Association for the Advancement of Science, American Psychological
>> Society, Academy of Political Science, Human Behavior and Evolution Society,
>> International Society for Human Ethology. Scientific Advisory Board Member,
>> Lifeboat Foundation. Advisory Board Member, The Buffalo Film Festival.
>> Editorial board member, The Journal of Space Philosophy.
>>
>> In a message dated 6/19/2015 9:22:14 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>> emanl....@gmail.com writes:
>>
>>
>> Dear Jerry,
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank you for responding to my post.
>>
>> Thank you very much for an attempt to read and to understand my Vienna
>> Symposium related publications.
>>
>>
>>
>> I apologize for a delay in my response – I was trying to read and to
>> understand your papers (“Algebraic Biology” and “Physical Foundations of
>> Organic Mathematics”). Unfortunately, I did not understand much of what you
>> are talking there (about biological computations).
>>
>> Never mind, it is my fault, not yours. To my shame, I often also do not
>> understand what other people on the forum are writing too.
>>
>>
>>
>> As to me, I think (and write) that the era of a computational approach to
>> science and nature studies is over and we are gradually replacing it with a
>> cognitive approach. (Computational biology, Computational ecology,
>> Computational neuroscience, Computational genomics, Computational chemistry,
>> Computational endocrinology, Computational intelligence, Computational
>> linguistics and so on are now being replaced with Cognitive biology,
>> Cognitive ecology, Cognitive neuroscience, Cognitive genomics, Cognitive
>> endocrinology, Cognitive intelligence, Cognitive linguistics, and even
>> Cognitive computing).
>>
>>
>>
>> By definition, computational approaches imply intensive data processing,
>> while Cognitive approaches imply dedicated information processing. What is
>> the difference? Unfortunately, FIS forum does not dwell on this issue.
>>
>>
>>
>> I was pleased to hear from Prof. Kun Wu (at his opening lecture in Vienna)
>> that “By means of the reformation, all scientific and philosophical domains
>> are facing an integrative trend of paradigm reform, which I name as
>> “informationalization of science”, (The quotation is from one of his
>> presentation slides).
>>
>>
>>
>> As you can see, my assertions are very close to what Prof. Kun Wu claims,
>> but far from what you (and other mainstream FIS contributors) obey and
>> adhere to.
>>
>>
>>
>> I am a newcomer to FIS and I do not intend to preach in the others’ temple.
>> But Prof. Kun Wu is one of the founding fathers of the Philosophy of
>> Information. Therefore, it would be wise for you to be in an agreement with
>> his postulates.
>>
>>
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Emanuel Diamant.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Jerry LR Chandler [mailto:jerry_lr_chand...@me.com]
>> Sent: Monday, June 15, 2015 8:42 PM
>> To: Emanuel Diamant
>> Subject: Re: [Fis] FIS newcomer
>>
>>
>>
>> Dear Emanuel:
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks for posting your views on Research Gate.
>>
>>
>>
>> Interesting perspective, but... the essence of biology / biological
>> computation are empirical observations that are highly irregular in nature.
>> One must separate the concepts of structures from functions in the languages
>> of chemistry and biology.
>>
>>
>>
>> You may wish to look at the concepts of languages from your perspectives.
>>
>>
>>
>> Several of my online available papers will provide more substance for these
>> comments.
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>>
>>
>> jerry
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jun 15, 2015, at 11:29 AM, Emanuel Diamant wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Dear FISlists,
>>
>>
>>
>> I am a newcomer to the FIS discussion table. The debate that is going on in
>> your list-exchange is very interesting to me, but frankly, for the most of
>> the time, I only guess about what you are talking – my vocabulary and my
>> notions of Information are quite different from yours. Nevertheless, I would
>> like to add my voice to the ongoing discourse – I would like to direct you
>> to my page on the Research Gate
>> (https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Emanuel_Diamant) to see my uploads
>> from the last IS4IS Vienna Conference. Maybe you will find them interesting.
>>
>>
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Emanuel Diamant.
>>
>>
>>
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