John, I read the English translation of Science and Information theory in 1976 and was profoundly influenced by it. I started doing so because I was trying to understand conscious awareness at that time, and it struck me that information theory was the closest thing to it in science at the time. (not being impressed much by S's cat etc.) So you see it took 40 years thought for me to get to where I am now. Even in 2008 when I had 90% of my present theory worked out, I was not formulating it as a new theory of information. Reading and re-rereading (!) Shear and Chalmers was central to that. And the fluid Reynolds number analogy which led me to see that I did indeed have a genuine 'Double Aspect' information theory of just the right kind. Alex
On 8 July 2016 at 20:37, John Collier <colli...@ukzn.ac.za> wrote: > Comment inserted below yours. > > > > John Collier > > Professor Emeritus and Senior Research Associate > > University of KwaZulu-Natal > > http://web.ncf.ca/collier > > > > *From:* Fis [mailto:fis-boun...@listas.unizar.es] *On Behalf Of *Michel > Godron > *Sent:* Friday, 08 July 2016 4:52 PM > *To:* fis@listas.unizar.es; l...@leydesdorff.net > *Subject:* Re: [Fis] Essential Core? > > > > My responses are in red > > Bien reçu votre message. MERCI. Cordialement. M. Godron > > Le 08/07/2016 à 14:42, Pedro C. Marijuan a écrit : > > Dear FIS Colleagues, > > Some brief responses to the different parties: > > Marcus: there were several sessions dealing with info physics, where I > remember some historical connotations with mechanics emerged. Mostly 1998 > and 2002 chaired by Koichiro Matsuno and 2004 by Michel Petitjean. > Afterwards the theme has surfaced relatively often. About the present > possibilities for a UTI, my opinion is that strictly remaining within > Shannon's and anthropocentric discourse boundaries there is no way out. > > Yes, but it is not the same with Brillouin's information : I could send > to you a text in French which gives a demonstration of the convergence > between that information and thermodynamical neguentropy. Since twenty > years, I did not find an english review which was interested by this > problem, because I am biologist and the biological reviews were not > interested. > > *[John Collier] I agree. I have read only an English translation of > Science and Information Theory. I read it as an undergrad, and it has > strongly influenced my views. It is unfortunate, I think, that it hasn’t > influenced English speaking scientists much. I have also seen some bad > misreadings of what he was saying.* > > > > _______________________________________________ > Fis mailing list > Fis@listas.unizar.es > http://listas.unizar.es/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fis > > -- Alex Hankey M.A. (Cantab.) PhD (M.I.T.) Distinguished Professor of Yoga and Physical Science, SVYASA, Eknath Bhavan, 19 Gavipuram Circle Bangalore 560019, Karnataka, India Mobile (Intn'l): +44 7710 534195 Mobile (India) +91 900 800 8789 ____________________________________________________________ 2015 JPBMB Special Issue on Integral Biomathics: Life Sciences, Mathematics and Phenomenological Philosophy <http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/journal/00796107/119/3>
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