On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 06:34:04PM -0500, Terin Stock wrote:
> > <http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/sourceforge/ticket/14544#comment:3>:
> >
> > "The abandoned project takeover project has been modified, and is no
> > longer planned to be handled. It was a particularly burdensome and time
> > consuming process. We now recommend that you contact the project admins
> > and see if they'll add you to the list of admins, and if not, that you
> > fork the project.
> So where do we want to go, going forward with this?

well, if the existing project can not be updated it will just bitrot.
the only issue really is how it affects users searching for fish.

the sf project does not come up on at least the first 30 hits when i did
a search for "fish shell" on google, so google searchers are unlikely to
be misled there. they will find fishshell.org though.

searching for link:http://sourceforge.net/projects/fish/ yields nothing,
that means there are no other websites that point to the sourceforge
project either. so the remaining concern is people searching directly on
sourceforge.

to help that, having another project (eg fishshell) might help, but it
might not be needed.  if they go to the current project they will find it
points to a website that no longer exists, and hopefully continue their
search.

i just used the review feature to add a comment with the new website
url, and maybe something similar can be done as an issue report, to make
it show up at http://sourceforge.net/projects/fish/develop/

laird, maybe you have an option to edit the url in the summary.
if not, which permissions do you have on the project? (can you respond
to and close tracker issues, do you have tracker admin permissions?)

and obviously, anyone who checks the mailinglist archive will find these
messages.

it is unfortunate that sourceforge is no longer handling takeover
requests, but the only real dependency on sourceforge is this
mailinglist.  

laird, you mentioned earlier that you would like others to take over
mailing-list moderation. do you have rights to make others to list-admins?

list administration appears to be quite standard mailman: 
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/admin/fish-users

so there is a chance that you can make others to admins, regardless of
their sf project membership status.

currently there are 4 list owners and only alex is listed with an sf
address.

does anyone volunteer to help out with list moderation?

greetings, martin.
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