if i am not mistaken, jQuery is a framework that makes working with html tags easier. but you are still stuck with using those tags.
its not a matter of 'can you do it with this language', its a matter of 'what control do i have'. i have always felt that as a developer, you have less control over how html works, than how flash works. there are greater and deeper black boxes in html. i just don't see why people like working in html at all. they took a markup language, designed to be static and Frankenstein-ed it with javascript and css to compensate where they should have attempted to create something new. i don't think the future is bleak at all either. in fact, i think that flash might end up being used more and more for tools, education, and visualization. but that's what i am using it for and i am a bit out of touch with what everyone else is doing. are there ways that i could effectively create my own 'tag' with its own attributes and events and use that in lieu of a natvie html tag? On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 4:46 PM, Karl DeSaulniers <[email protected]>wrote: > One word.. jQuery. > > In my option it is the next best thing to flash. > I have been able to recreate most, if not all of my flash pieces with it. > > <body> is your canvas. (NOT a reference to HTML5 BTW, think artist canvas > =) > <DIV> is your friend. Call it your MovieClip. > <p> is a helper when layout has text. > if your daring enough to learn the proper way to use it, > <table>, <tr> and the good ol <td> can make a sound foundation. > (Not the going consensus though, I just know how to use them properly. > most people like to use a table-less design and thats just <DIV>s galore > with CSS.) > > jQuery can create any element you want on the fly (Not sure about the HTML > tag though, > never tried. I use php to create any new HTML) and manipulate it (in some > cases) > better than flash and an MC. jQuery has not been a memory hoooooogggg like > flash was for me > and like I said, I have recreated most of what I did with flash. > > Just a very small run-down an there is A LOT more I have not touched on > that you can utilize. > The future is not so bleak, IMO. > > I just assume let Adobe burry Flash if this is the effort they would put > towards it. > I learned Flash much like you. I hated the limitations of HTML. > Saw flash and asked, why can't HTML do this stuff?? > Well now it can, or I should say, it kind-of always could, > > I just didn't know Javascript and CSS... > > HTH, > > Best, > Karl > > PS: Flash still is my love, but she's left me to figure out who she is. I > wait with baited breath... > > On Jan 13, 2012, at 12:43 PM, Ktu wrote: > > *preamble:* >> >> a recent thread got me thinking about my educational experience, and why i >> love flash so much. i started html, hated it, then tried flash, all in >> high >> school. after high school i eventually went to a college for two semesters >> and learned some c++ and java (java was easier, but understanding the >> power >> of c++ was cool). >> >> i realized i didn't like html because you couldn't do anything with it. it >> was just presentation. i wanted to do logic. flash, allowed me to do >> logic. >> when i learned html javascript was brand new and my high school teacher >> knew nothing of it (barely knew anything of anything). so what flash >> allowed me was a place to immediately make things happen (started just >> when >> as2 came out). >> >> *problem:* >> >> even after you include css, dynamic css, and javascript to html you still >> have this one problem which is the whole reason i hate html. the >> presentation layer is black boxed. i think there are two elements to that >> which need addressing; one being the browser wars, the other being the >> (imho) new powers of javascript and the html/css standards. >> >> each tag we use in html is a black box. i can't change the way it behaves. >> worse yet, each browser (and os) represent things differently. right off >> the bat its hard to make a single experience. but these black boxes make >> innovation harder. >> >> ok, so with javascript and such you could build your own 'scroll bar' and >> 'scrolling content', but you are still confined within the black boxes you >> are given, and merely using them in a way they weren't initially designed >> for. >> >> >> how is it that anyone enjoys working in an environment where their ui is >> so >> locked down? (or is it?) >> >> >> *haters:* >> >> to make comment on flash's ui black box: >> yes, their display architecture is a black box and we must conform to >> that. >> i get that, but the black box in flash ui is more of a foundation to a >> house that we can't touch. where as i see html as being pre built rooms >> that we can stitch together. >> >> >> >> *what's up:* >> >> i have not touched html in years; i am biased; i am open minded, am i >> missing something about html? have they added 'lower level' tags that act >> more like a foundation? >> can javascript 'create' new html tags? >> >> with the way things are going, i think the global web language will >> eventually need to have fewer black boxes in the ui (if that's not the >> case >> today) >> >> ...,? >> >> >> >> -- >> Ktu; >> >> The information contained in this message may or may not be privileged >> and/or confidential. 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