So how can QuarkXpress offer such a utility? I don't think it would be
illegal to collect the fonts used in a FLA by using a utility in the Flash
IDE. It's up to the user to ensure that font licensing terms are met in
terms of subsequent distribution etc.

Clark


On 4/13/06, Shaw, Matt (MTVN) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> This would be illegal unless the fonts included a license which allowed
> copying them and sending them around. Unless the fonts were free...
>
> But yes, I agree that it is annoying.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of clark
> slater
> Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 6:16 PM
> To: [ExtendFlash]; [FlashCoders]
> Subject: [Flashcoders] RANT: Collect Fonts Button
>
> Print designers who use QuarkXpress have had an essential utility for
> years.
> They can collect all the fonts used in a project so that when passing
> the source file to a bureau for print the exact same fonts are supplied
> along with the artwork and layout.
>
> I cannot begin to list all the times we have encountered major pain
> because the designer who created a particular FLA has lost the fonts or
> reinstalled their operating system or for whatever reason can no longer
> get their hands on the fonts. It is such a phenomenal pain in the tits.
> In terms of production time this is a VERY costly problem. We have
> literally wasted hours screwing around with fonts trying to track down
> the exact font used in a particular file. Sometimes the font might be
> correct version - but different kerning table means it reflows
> everywhere. Arrrrggh.
>
> Often made worse by the way that font names are handled differently in
> Flash than in other programs using the exact same file. The scope for
> confusion is enormous. Even using third party font management tools like
> suitcase does not alleviate the problems because of the way that most
> design applications will install their own dirty secret fonts into the
> system fonts folder.
>
> Given the number of FLA files that are shared from designer to
> developer, agency to client to agency to freelancer etc. I simply cannot
> understand why Macromedia never saw fit to implement a utility like
> Quark has so it would be easy to collect all the fonts used in a
> particular file for handoff to the next part of the production workflow.
> The chance of font piracy is not a strong enough argument to explain why
> this critical design feature has been left out. After all anyone wanting
> to pirate fonts can just swap the contents of their system fonts folder
> etc.
>
> Clearly, I sincerely hope this is included in the next version of the
> Flash IDE - but I'm not holding my breath as it's been a submitted
> wishlist item since version 3 or 4! In the meantime it would be great if
> there was a way to handle this with JSFL. Unfortunately I can't see any
> way to access the fonts used property of a document.
>
> I'm sure we are not the only agency nearly driven to dementia with these
> kind of Flash font related issues. If anyone else out there shares our
> anguish please speak up, we need to convince Adobe to include proper
> font management in the next Flash IDE. And on the offchance that anyone
> has found a funky solution to this most annoying of problems, I will at
> the very least buy you a case of your favorite beer. And if anyone has
> any insights to how this could be pulled off with JSFL I would be very
> interested to discuss.
>
> OK anyone that made it this far thanks for listening to my ranting.
>
> Maybe we're the only Flash agency lame enough to be so badly affected by
> such font problems coz I don't really see this discussed anywhere, or
> maybe there's some really slick or simple solution that everyone else is
> using...but I'm betting not. In which case it seems like an extension
> that could fix this would be a *really* shit hot item for someone to
> develop and offer to the Flash community as a whole.
>
>
> Clark Slater
> www.bayinteractive.com
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