" the solution to all of this is to just use one of the many js  
solutions that don't have issues like this."

If you're referring to the issue I'm reporting, I'm afraid your solution is
not immune either.  Two out of 3 of my PCs will show the "click to activate"
message if you have cleared your cache and then visited your example pages
without restarting your browser first.

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Stearns
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 10:56 AM
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Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Eolas "fix" and backspace key flash bug

that's not really accurate...  you can have the flash inserted as the  
page loads and not have to activate it. the requirement is that it's  
written by an external script, and not invoked natively by the  
browser (and plain html).

it doesn't matter if it's done onload or inline as the page is loading.

the solution to all of this is to just use one of the many js  
solutions that don't have issues like this.

if you can't use javascript for some reason (which should never be  
the case), then be prepared to force your customers to click to  
activate the control.



On Jun 14, 2006, at 5:19 PM, ryanm wrote:
>>
>    There's no magic there, the embedded object cannot exist prior  
> to the onload event firing or it will require activation. Period.  
> Don't use a delay, use the onload event. A delay is unpredictable  
> because you are working on the client side, where bandwidth,  
> network congestion, and the size of the images and other files  
> loaded into the page will cause the amount of time before the  
> onload event fires to vary drastically. To state that more clearly,  
> you will *never* accomplish this in any predictable way using a  
> time delay, not even if you make the delay over 1 minute, because  
> somewhere there is still a guy using a 14.4 modem.
>
> ryanm
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