Im on XP at work / Vista at home and don't get the border, so that's a
bit weird. 

Ah, NativeWindow.bounds, that looks like just the thing - includes any
system chrome (visible or not). Lots of handy events with it too by the
looks. Yeah, let me know how it goes - good luck.

Cheers
Matt

-----Original Message-----
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de Koning
Sent: 18 January 2008 18:27
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Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Windowing in AIR

I'm using XP, i have noticed that on Vista it doesn't do it, on mac it
is also a bit weird.
I think i have found something, namely NativeWindowBounds, i'll let you
know about my findings

Sid

Matthew James Poole wrote:
> Ah I see.
>
> Oddly I don't actually get that border when dragging the employees 
> app, which OS are you using?
>
> ... You could always ensure that your main NativeWindow is always 
> maximised and other 'windows' inside are just MovieClips, but that's a

> bit hacky
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sidney

> de Koning
> Sent: 18 January 2008 10:45
> To: Flash Coders List
> Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Windowing in AIR
>
> Hi Matthew,
>
> I have placed the screenshots online at: 
> http://www.funky-monkey.nl/flashcoders/
> The border you see, is the border that appears when i drag the app. I 
> have placed the EmployeeDirectory also in the screenshot so you can 
> see the difference.
>
> Hope this makes it more clear,
>
> Cheers,
>
> Sidney
>
>
>
> Matthew James Poole wrote:
>   
>> Screen shots would be good please mate - I don't seem to get any 
>> problem with the sample AIR, I'm probably still misunderstanding the 
>> issue though ;)
>>
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>> Sidney
>>     
>
>   
>> de Koning
>> Sent: 17 January 2008 10:52
>> To: Flash Coders List
>> Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Windowing in AIR
>>
>> Well, kindof, if you install that EmployeeDirectory app, you see that

>> when you drag, the size of the window is only as big as the content, 
>> and then your operating system displays an border for how big the app

>> is(only if you dragg it). when the app is folded out (when you press 
>> the little i button) and you start dragging you see that the border 
>> when you drag it, is again just as big as the app.
>> What happends with my app is that that border always stays the same, 
>> the size of my canvas i specify in the Flash IDE, and cannot make it 
>> any smaller. The bounds of my app will never confine to my content 
>> but
>>     
>
>   
>> only to my canvas. I want my bounds to be smaller accourding to the 
>> state of my app. Does that make any sense to you?
>>
>> If not clear, i can make some screenshots and place on my website if 
>> that helps,
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Sid
>>
>> Matthew James Poole wrote:
>>   
>>     
>>> ...Ok, I think I see what you mean. NativeWindows are always 
>>> rectangular
>>> - The OS doesn't allow anything other than this. So the dimentions 
>>> of
>>>       
>
>   
>>> the NativeWindow will always be bigger than the size of the content 
>>> if
>>>     
>>>       
>>   
>>     
>>> it isnt rectangular in appearance.
>>>
>>> The work around for this is to not to set your drag on the 
>>> containing
>>>       
>
>   
>>> NativeWindow, but put it on your next container inside that... Does 
>>> that answer your question?
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
>>> Sidney
>>>     
>>>       
>>   
>>     
>>> de Koning
>>> Sent: 17 January 2008 10:01
>>> To: Flash Coders List
>>> Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Windowing in AIR
>>>
>>> Hi Matthew,
>>>
>>> Thanks for the answers; like i said:
>>>
>>> The problem that i dont want is that when my app unfolds, my 
>>> 'appllication canvas' is actully bigger that what the user sees. 
>>> When
>>>       
>
>   
>>> you dragg the app i want the draggeble area to be confined to the 
>>> size
>>>     
>>>       
>>   
>>     
>>> of the current state of my application). When your current state is 
>>> smaller than your canvas, you still see the border.
>>>
>>> For instance when you look at the EmployeeDirectory app, on 
>>> http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/air/samples/ and when it folds 
>>> open
>>>     
>>>       
>>   
>>     
>>> the 'canvas' is also stretched, and when you drag it, the borrder is

>>> only confined to the current state of the app.
>>>
>>> Can you tell me how this can be realized?
>>>
>>> Cheers, Sidney
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Matthew James Poole wrote:
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>> Hi Sid,
>>>>
>>>> 1. NativeWindow's have height and width properties, so you should 
>>>> be
>>>>         
>
>   
>>>> able just to set these directly 2. A NativeWindow is just that - an

>>>> OS
>>>>     
>>>>       
>>>>         
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>> native windo - so at best you can have a MC in a NativeWindow 3. 
>>>> see
>>>> 2
>>>>     
>>>>       
>>>>         
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>> - a NativeWindow can have many MC's inside it...
>>>> 4. Not really, though if it was the same size it would appear to be

>>>> masked (assuming the top one was visible) 5. Yes just set the width

>>>> and height, x and y properties onEnterFrame
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>> Matt
>>>>
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>>>> Sidney
>>>>     
>>>>       
>>>>         
>>>   
>>>     
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>>>> de Koning
>>>> Sent: 17 January 2008 09:16
>>>> To: Flash Coders List
>>>> Subject: [Flashcoders] Windowing in AIR
>>>>
>>>> Hi List,
>>>>
>>>> Couple of questions about AIR and NativeWindows.
>>>> - How do i set the width and height of an NativeWindow? Can i do 
>>>> that
>>>>       
>>>>         
>>   
>>     
>>>> in the code or only in the descriptor file?
>>>> - Can a NativeWindow also be an MovieClip (living in the library 
>>>> with
>>>> linkage) and how do i set this?
>>>> - Can a NativeWindow be composed of multiple movieclips?
>>>> - Can a NativeWindow be masked with another NativeWindow (to create

>>>> a
>>>>       
>>>>         
>>   
>>     
>>>> sliding panel below the other NW)
>>>> - Is it possible to animate an NativeWindow (using third party 
>>>> classes
>>>>     
>>>>       
>>>>         
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>> like Tweener)
>>>>
>>>> What i would like to accomplish is this: The AIR app launches in a 
>>>> certain width and height but when i click a button, the app unfolds

>>>> to
>>>>     
>>>>       
>>>>         
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>> a bigger version with the content, can i, at certain times set the 
>>>> size of my NativeWindow bigger?
>>>> (The problem that i dont want is that when my app unfolds, my 
>>>> 'appllication canvas' is actuly bigger that what the user sees. 
>>>> When
>>>>         
>
>   
>>>> you dragg the app i want the draggeble area to be confined to the 
>>>> size
>>>>     
>>>>       
>>>>         
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>> of the current stat of my application)
>>>>
>>>> Help is appreciated :)
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> Sidney
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