I'll back processing. It's an incredible tool. Relatively simple and pretty damn powerful. I got facial recognition going (with a library) for a 3D scene you can look around and I've seen a good amount of excellent stuff come out of it. As for Java, yes, it's the original, yes, it's a more powerful engine, but as far as front-end web work goes, both those don't matter too much, ease of production, I think, trumps them. And with Flash 10 (CS4) artists and developers have an incredible platform, with simple 3D, inverse kinematics with soft skinning, and a shit load more all ready to go. I don't see Java competing with that too easily. Java always seemed to have its own space, which I knew nothing about; Fx is confusing me.
That said, I'd back open source if its got a chance. 2008/12/7 Latcho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Hi Dr. Ache, > It's not about it's power. It's also about marketing and market penetration > and providing newcomers a solid entry point. Furthermore ... > The level of complexity that flash can have now can be harder on starters; > AS3, compilers, design patterns and so on will be are no out of the box > toys. The main difference for me is that you can start easy and animation > friendly via the flash IDE and it's fine documentation. > The historical super technical java docs, silly examples. the packaging, > the badly documented differences between compiling for online and local aps, > and a missing IDE or compiler gui pulled me from going further after some > experimenting with it. Just now, nearly half a decade later, after being > mentored by good tutorials, a very communicative and a helpful flash and AS > community from a simple video editor up to a design-pattern-level coder, > just now I would have the courage to check it out again. > By the way: processing providde me with a nice wrapper and support to get > visual stuff done for starters; I loved it and it's betst part -> : the > java displaying power and the easy applet pubishing. > http://processing.org/ > > Latcho > > > > dr.ache wrote: > >> What I am concerned I do not see any reason why they should NOT do this. >> I find its pretty obvious. >> >> a) They do already have a language actionscript tries to mimic more and >> more with every release. >> b) They do have the power flash is lacking especially what desctop is >> concerned. >> c) Java was meant to be the internet language ever since. Meaning it has >> all you need for web based systems. >> d) Its open source >> e) Serious corporations DO use Java for their networks and with Flex Adobe >> is trying to become more mature to be recognized by those companies (SAP, >> etc) >> d) Just a guess, but I would say there are more Java developer out there >> then flash developers - so a hugh audience. >> e) etc etc >> >> I dont think JavaFX will replace something like flash... but it has great >> power and this is the first release... do you remember flash 1? >> >> >> >> Latcho schrieb: >> >>> Dunno why they put energy in this. Java, they had their chances for >>> online animation-focussed penetration, too late now I guess. >>> And the site crashed my pretty stable FF3. >>> >>> Anthony Pace wrote: >>> >>>> I am sure if better coders provided better examples it would work well; >>>> yet, the applications seem to take forever to load and I have a pretty >>>> decent system. >>>> >>>> Eric E. Dolecki wrote: >>>> >>>>> On my Mac in Firefox when I scroll the page, that player UI flickers on >>>>> and >>>>> off. Pretty lame. >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 1:15 PM, Jim Robson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> I checked out the drag-able component sample on javafx.com and it >>>>>> didn't work. If you're interested in the details, I put them in a >>>>>> comment on Sten Andersen's blog here: >>>>>> >>>>>> http://blogs.citytechinc.com/sanderson/?p=49#comment-714 >>>>>> >>>>>> hth >>>>>> Jim >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Flashcoders mailing list >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Flashcoders mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Flashcoders mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders >>> >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Flashcoders mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Flashcoders mailing list > [email protected] > http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders > -- The Random Lines My online portfolio www.therandomlines.com _______________________________________________ Flashcoders mailing list [email protected] http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
