I did not say anything else. No one says that it's a direct opponent to
flash. but I am pretty sure that this is gonna steal the show for flex
in the
business line. When you have to build really huge applications enterprise
developer are the first who can manage that - and now with the ability of
a front-end extension to their OWN language and environment (which includes
everything that is still lacking in flex and flash or is at most in the
beginning
of development like unit tests, dependencies visualisation,
blablabla...) they
do not need to switch to things like flex. they just need to learn that
package
like some flash developers need to learn , whatever.. Tweenlite ;-)
Just to remember. I just say, there IS a good reason for them to further
develop java fx
Ashim D'Silva schrieb:
As for Java, yes, it's the original, yes, it's a more powerful engine, but
as far as front-end web work goes, both those don't matter too much, ease of
production, I think, trumps them. And with Flash 10 (CS4) artists and
developers have an incredible platform, with simple 3D, inverse kinematics
with soft skinning, and a shit load more all ready to go. I don't see Java
competing with that too easily. Java always seemed to have its own space,
which I knew nothing about; Fx is confusing me.
That said, I'd back open source if its got a chance.
2008/12/7 Latcho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Hi Dr. Ache,
It's not about it's power. It's also about marketing and market penetration
and providing newcomers a solid entry point. Furthermore ...
The level of complexity that flash can have now can be harder on starters;
AS3, compilers, design patterns and so on will be are no out of the box
toys. The main difference for me is that you can start easy and animation
friendly via the flash IDE and it's fine documentation.
The historical super technical java docs, silly examples. the packaging,
the badly documented differences between compiling for online and local aps,
and a missing IDE or compiler gui pulled me from going further after some
experimenting with it. Just now, nearly half a decade later, after being
mentored by good tutorials, a very communicative and a helpful flash and AS
community from a simple video editor up to a design-pattern-level coder,
just now I would have the courage to check it out again.
By the way: processing providde me with a nice wrapper and support to get
visual stuff done for starters; I loved it and it's betst part -> : the
java displaying power and the easy applet pubishing.
http://processing.org/
Latcho
dr.ache wrote:
What I am concerned I do not see any reason why they should NOT do this.
I find its pretty obvious.
a) They do already have a language actionscript tries to mimic more and
more with every release.
b) They do have the power flash is lacking especially what desctop is
concerned.
c) Java was meant to be the internet language ever since. Meaning it has
all you need for web based systems.
d) Its open source
e) Serious corporations DO use Java for their networks and with Flex Adobe
is trying to become more mature to be recognized by those companies (SAP,
etc)
d) Just a guess, but I would say there are more Java developer out there
then flash developers - so a hugh audience.
e) etc etc
I dont think JavaFX will replace something like flash... but it has great
power and this is the first release... do you remember flash 1?
Latcho schrieb:
Dunno why they put energy in this. Java, they had their chances for
online animation-focussed penetration, too late now I guess.
And the site crashed my pretty stable FF3.
Anthony Pace wrote:
I am sure if better coders provided better examples it would work well;
yet, the applications seem to take forever to load and I have a pretty
decent system.
Eric E. Dolecki wrote:
On my Mac in Firefox when I scroll the page, that player UI flickers on
and
off. Pretty lame.
On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 1:15 PM, Jim Robson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
I checked out the drag-able component sample on javafx.com and it
didn't work. If you're interested in the details, I put them in a
comment on Sten Andersen's blog here:
http://blogs.citytechinc.com/sanderson/?p=49#comment-714
hth
Jim
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