I dont get your point.
First you said: "Dunno why they put energy in this".
Then I pointed out what makes me think there decision is obvious and
even more: a good step from a java perspective.
What does that mean: "It's not about it's power. It's also about
marketing and market penetration and providing newcomers a solid entry
point."
That is a totally different story. They do not copy flash they just
expand there platform in a way that you build more
modern RIAs on it. When you want to make a comparison then with flex. In
a way both of them (Flex and Java FX) seem
to mimic each other. The first one adopts the language structure, the
later admits that there is more then forms and tables.
I agree with a lot of points from you but its another discussion. There
are good reasons for the Java world to open up,
its just getting more multimedia.
Latcho schrieb:
Hi Dr. Ache,
It's not about it's power. It's also about marketing and market
penetration and providing newcomers a solid entry point. Furthermore ...
The level of complexity that flash can have now can be harder on
starters; AS3, compilers, design patterns and so on will be are no
out of the box toys. The main difference for me is that you can start
easy and animation friendly via the flash IDE and it's fine
documentation.
The historical super technical java docs, silly examples. the
packaging, the badly documented differences between compiling for
online and local aps, and a missing IDE or compiler gui pulled me from
going further after some experimenting with it. Just now, nearly half
a decade later, after being mentored by good tutorials, a very
communicative and a helpful flash and AS community from a simple video
editor up to a design-pattern-level coder, just now I would have the
courage to check it out again.
By the way: processing providde me with a nice wrapper and support to
get visual stuff done for starters; I loved it and it's betst part ->
: the java displaying power and the easy applet pubishing.
http://processing.org/
Latcho
dr.ache wrote:
What I am concerned I do not see any reason why they should NOT do this.
I find its pretty obvious.
a) They do already have a language actionscript tries to mimic more
and more with every release.
b) They do have the power flash is lacking especially what desctop is
concerned.
c) Java was meant to be the internet language ever since. Meaning it
has all you need for web based systems.
d) Its open source
e) Serious corporations DO use Java for their networks and with Flex
Adobe is trying to become more mature to be recognized by those
companies (SAP, etc)
d) Just a guess, but I would say there are more Java developer out
there then flash developers - so a hugh audience.
e) etc etc
I dont think JavaFX will replace something like flash... but it has
great power and this is the first release... do you remember flash 1?
Latcho schrieb:
Dunno why they put energy in this. Java, they had their chances for
online animation-focussed penetration, too late now I guess.
And the site crashed my pretty stable FF3.
Anthony Pace wrote:
I am sure if better coders provided better examples it would work
well; yet, the applications seem to take forever to load and I have
a pretty decent system.
Eric E. Dolecki wrote:
On my Mac in Firefox when I scroll the page, that player UI
flickers on and
off. Pretty lame.
On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 1:15 PM, Jim Robson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
I checked out the drag-able component sample on javafx.com and it
didn't work. If you're interested in the details, I put them in a
comment on Sten Andersen's blog here:
http://blogs.citytechinc.com/sanderson/?p=49#comment-714
hth
Jim
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