I do, if not, I'm not be here... :D
> Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2012 15:23:07 +0100 > Subject: Re: How to prepare Apache Flex 5 to run in the new AVM in > Flashplayer 12? > From: e...@ixsoftware.nl > To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org > > Sebastien, > > You write: "For me it's a framework for RIA, with descriptive language for > UI, giving the possibility to have one code base and many platform > targets." > > I'm not disagreeing, but that description is so generic that any number of > frameworks/languages fit. Let me ask it another way: why are you using Flex > at the moment? What makes Flex your tool of choice? > > EdB > > > > On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 2:36 PM, sébastien Paturel > <sebpatu.f...@gmail.com>wrote: > > > If the question was adressed to me :) > > Then i already answered it several times in the mailing list. > > And i'd like to have your answer to this question too. > > > > Thats why i launched the "what is the essence of flex" thread. But i was > > dissapointed to not get more answers, especially from commiters. > > > > I shared my humble opinion on this subject here: > > http://mail-archives.apache.**org/mod_mbox/incubator-flex-** > > dev/201211.mbox/%3C50A55DE7.**6...@gmail.com%3E<http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-flex-dev/201211.mbox/%3c50a55de7....@gmail.com%3E> > > > > Feel free to disagree :) > > > > Le 16/11/2012 14:30, Erik de Bruin a écrit : > > > > Let me ask you this first: what, in your opinion, is Flex? > >> > >> EdB > >> > >> > >> > >> On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 2:12 PM, sébastien Paturel > >> <sebpatu.f...@gmail.com>wrote: > >> > >> With that logic, why flex in AS4, or flex in Haxe or whatever not AS3, > >>> would make it not to be Flex anymore? > >>> > >>> I understand the point about the large existing code base in AS3 and the > >>> need to port to another language. > >>> But when Adobe chose to change from AS2 to AS3 a lot of people ported > >>> their code, because it was required. > >>> When Adobe changed to Spark, it also needed some rewrite to be able to > >>> gain on new capabilities. > >>> And if we start a rewrite from scratch, it will be hard to keep > >>> everything > >>> even in AS3 usable as is or am i wrong? > >>> And if people want to use flex for cross platform, and especially HTML5, > >>> you saif yourself that if we wanted to be able to get existing flex apps > >>> and compile them directly to HTML5 was a dream. > >>> Meaning that if people want to gain from new flex capabilities, it will > >>> be > >>> with new project code, whether it is AS3 or something else. > >>> > >>> The questions are: > >>> - Do we have efficient solutions to keep AS3 and be able to cross compile > >>> to every platforms swf, HTML5, native iOS and native Android? > >>> For example using Haxe gives a lot of advantages in that regard because > >>> theres already a lot of work done for cross platform port and efficiency, > >>> and theres a large community around it. > >>> The essence of flex is more to be cross platform, than it is AS3 right? > >>> so > >>> if we don't have efficient solution to cross compile AS3 to platforms > >>> other > >>> than Adobe runtimes, its a matter of life and death choice: > >>> do we prefer keep it in AS3 to keep the existing third party code base, > >>> or > >>> do we want to survive with new language and stay cross platform but > >>> require > >>> some rewrites. > >>> > >>> - Do we want flex to be tight to an abandonned language as AS3? It is > >>> like > >>> if you were trying to keep an AS2 framework in an AS3 world. > >>> > >>> - Don't we want Apache flex to be as free as possible and get rid of > >>> Adobe > >>> technology dependency, meaning AS, flash player, and AIR? > >>> > >>> > >>> Le 15/11/2012 22:26, Alex Harui a écrit : > >>> > >>> > >>> On 11/15/12 12:24 PM, "sébastien Paturel" <sebpatu.f...@gmail.com> > >>>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> So it means that Flex in AS2 was not flex? > >>>> It was then, but now now. > >>>> > >>>> Le 15/11/2012 20:50, Alex Harui a écrit : > >>>>> > >>>>> On 11/15/12 11:44 AM, "sébastien Paturel" <sebpatu.f...@gmail.com> > >>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Why do you thing that using AS4 is the better choice? > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> It brings me back to the thread (what is the essence of Flex?) In my > >>>>>>> opinion, flex is not tight to actionscript. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> IMO, Flex is AS3. My assumption is that there are large bodies of > >>>>>> AS > >>>>>> business logic that folks are not wanting to port to something else. > >>>>>> Of > >>>>>> course, that assumption could be incorrect. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >> > > > > > -- > Ix Multimedia Software > > Jan Luykenstraat 27 > 3521 VB Utrecht > > T. 06-51952295 > I. www.ixsoftware.nl
