What is the IDE recommended by me? flashbuilder seems the obvious choice, I never ever used any other IDE on an enterprise situation. What is the IDE supported by me? none.
VELO On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 1:22 PM, Swf Games Online <[email protected]>wrote: > OK, so I guess my question should be ... > What is the recommended IDE for developing large enterprise Flash/Flex > 4 projects with Maven and Flex Mojos? > > > > On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 12:11 PM, Marvin Froeder <[email protected]>wrote: > >> I'm not developing in flex recently (other then flexmojos itself) so I >> just edit whatever I need as text on eclipse. So when I say eclipse I >> really meant eclipse. >> >> VELO >> >> On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 1:06 PM, Swf Games Online < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Are you using Flash Builder Plug-in for Eclipse? >>> >>> Are you using m2eclipse? >>> >>> Is the Flex 4 SDK supported? >>> >>> On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 9:37 AM, Marvin Froeder <[email protected]>wrote: >>> >>>> ?! >>>> >>>> On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 10:36 AM, Swf Games Online < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Is your Eclipse setup documented somewhere? >>>>> Which Flex SDK? >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 9:32 AM, Marvin Froeder >>>>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I only have Eclipse. >>>>>> >>>>>> VELO >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 10:29 AM, Swf Games Online < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Which IDE do you recommend for Flex Mojos? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 9:18 AM, Marvin Froeder <[email protected] >>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> They will only be supported by community. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> For instance, flash/flexbuilder support is made by lancer.. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://github.com/llinder/FlexMojos >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I just integrate that back into flexmojos, but I don't even run it >>>>>>>> once. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> VELO >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 10:15 AM, Swf Games Online < >>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> It sounds like you're talking about Flash Builder, not Flash >>>>>>>>> Develop. >>>>>>>>> Is that right? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Is there a roadmap for support for the main Flash IDEs? >>>>>>>>> Flash Builder >>>>>>>>> Eclipse w/Flash Builder Plugin >>>>>>>>> Flash Develop >>>>>>>>> FDT >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 8:18 AM, Marvin Froeder <velo.br@ >>>>>>>>> gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Have you used lancer stuff? >>>>>>>>>> http://github.com/llinder/FlexMojos >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> It is the same I included on flexmojos 3.8-SNAPSHOT (I just pull >>>>>>>>>> his changes), it should support flashbuilder and flexbuilder, can't >>>>>>>>>> really >>>>>>>>>> tell since I use neither. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> VELO >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 9:15 AM, David Vree < >>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> That is a good question. Firstly, I have kept pretty good notes >>>>>>>>>>> on >>>>>>>>>>> all of these steps and will provide them to anyone who asks. >>>>>>>>>>> Secondly, I play to evaluate FDT 4 when it comes out in a few >>>>>>>>>>> months. >>>>>>>>>>> I already have evaluated NetBeans which has a good >>>>>>>>>>> Flex/Flexmojos/ >>>>>>>>>>> Maven integration, but there are too many other things keeping me >>>>>>>>>>> on >>>>>>>>>>> Eclipse. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I don't think I have the skills to create a flexmojos Flash >>>>>>>>>>> Builder 4 >>>>>>>>>>> archetype, or to make a flexmojos >>>>>>>>>>> "push-settings-to-flash-builder" >>>>>>>>>>> goal. But I could write the specs for them if it would help. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 22, 7:05 am, Marvin Froeder <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> > I wonder what is your plan to make this painful steps less >>>>>>>>>>> painful? >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > Sent from DROID >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > Em 22/09/2010 00:43, "David Vree" <[email protected] >>>>>>>>>>> >escreveu: >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > It depends on what you mean by "work." If you mean "work >>>>>>>>>>> together" >>>>>>>>>>> > then no...it was a huge disappointment (i'll explain). If you >>>>>>>>>>> mean >>>>>>>>>>> > "work at the same time but completely separately" then yes. >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > Here's what I mean: >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > Flex SDK: >>>>>>>>>>> > Flash Builder requires you to download the SDK, store it >>>>>>>>>>> locally, >>>>>>>>>>> > and reference it from your projects...works great. >>>>>>>>>>> > flex-mojos will use Maven to download all the SDK library >>>>>>>>>>> files >>>>>>>>>>> > from a Maven repository...works great. >>>>>>>>>>> > The Problem: YOU need to make sure that the installed IDS >>>>>>>>>>> SDK >>>>>>>>>>> > version matches precisely with the Maven version or you will >>>>>>>>>>> get two >>>>>>>>>>> > "nearly identical" versions of the system running and it will >>>>>>>>>>> make you >>>>>>>>>>> > insane! You might think you could reference the Maven >>>>>>>>>>> libraries from >>>>>>>>>>> > your "~/.m2/repository" directory from the Flash project and >>>>>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>>>>> > reference the seperate SDK, but you'd be wrong. Thank Adobe >>>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>> > that. Note that for 3rd party libraries, you can use flexmojos >>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>> > download it, and you can reference it from within FlashBuilder >>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>> > this will all work swimmingly. >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > Flexmojo's Flex Builder Archetype >>>>>>>>>>> > You might think I have mis-typed something by saying "Flex >>>>>>>>>>> Builder >>>>>>>>>>> > Archetype", but I have not. This is not a Flash Builder >>>>>>>>>>> archetype and >>>>>>>>>>> > the projects that get generated don't work in Flash Builder >>>>>>>>>>> without a >>>>>>>>>>> > significant amount of screwing around. Apparently a real Flash >>>>>>>>>>> > Builder Archetype is NOT in the works. >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > Source Paths: >>>>>>>>>>> > You will want to go the "Maven Way" with this, which means >>>>>>>>>>> you'll >>>>>>>>>>> > need to carefully configure the Flash Builder projects to point >>>>>>>>>>> to the >>>>>>>>>>> > correct source paths. This sounds easy, but took me more than >>>>>>>>>>> a day >>>>>>>>>>> > to figure it out. I had to kill a chicken and read the >>>>>>>>>>> entrails.... >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > HTML Template: >>>>>>>>>>> > You can check the box all you want in Flash Builder to get a >>>>>>>>>>> > working HTML template, but for Flexmojos to "know" about it you >>>>>>>>>>> need >>>>>>>>>>> > to bind another goal to a life cycle phase. It all works great >>>>>>>>>>> once >>>>>>>>>>> > its properly configured, but that it going to require the use >>>>>>>>>>> of the >>>>>>>>>>> > maven-assembly-plugin and the maven-war-plugin overlay feature. >>>>>>>>>>> To >>>>>>>>>>> > get this working I had to meditate on a treetop for hours. >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > Application File: >>>>>>>>>>> > You're going to have to tell them both about your root >>>>>>>>>>> application >>>>>>>>>>> > file in each SWF project. Not a big deal, but don't get it >>>>>>>>>>> wrong! >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > Target Player Version: >>>>>>>>>>> > You're going to have to tell them both about this too. Not a >>>>>>>>>>> big >>>>>>>>>>> > deal, but remember to keep them in sync! >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > Expect more duplicate configuration for conditional >>>>>>>>>>> compilation, >>>>>>>>>>> > themes, runtime share libaries, locales, and modules. >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > Let me close by saying that Flexmojos rocks the house and I >>>>>>>>>>> wish that >>>>>>>>>>> > FlashBuilder could be "mavenified" the way that the Java tools >>>>>>>>>>> are in >>>>>>>>>>> > Eclipse. I'd also say that now that I have it set up, they >>>>>>>>>>> both are >>>>>>>>>>> > really solid and working well. >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > If I had to dump one or the other, I'd definitely dump Flash >>>>>>>>>>> Builder. >>>>>>>>>>> > I know you didn't ask, but since I am in am opinionated mood, >>>>>>>>>>> I'll >>>>>>>>>>> > take a moment and rip on Flash Builder: >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > 1) WYSIWYS Design Mode -- Complete crap...the generated source >>>>>>>>>>> code >>>>>>>>>>> > violates every known good MXML and Actionscript programming >>>>>>>>>>> standard. >>>>>>>>>>> > Nice for demos, never ever use it in the real world. >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > 2) BlazeDS and Web Service Integration -- Cannot be used, >>>>>>>>>>> because the >>>>>>>>>>> > Flash Builder project will need to be set up as "No Data >>>>>>>>>>> Server" >>>>>>>>>>> > because you'd have to be crazy to force the compilation of your >>>>>>>>>>> SWF >>>>>>>>>>> > artifact to require the services-config.xml file on the >>>>>>>>>>> back-end >>>>>>>>>>> > server. That is, as soon as you dynamically configure >>>>>>>>>>> channels, Flash >>>>>>>>>>> > Builder takes a hike. >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > 3) Code Hinting -- Compared to Java tooling it's garbage. For >>>>>>>>>>> > example, if you "paste" a class name, it won't give you the >>>>>>>>>>> import >>>>>>>>>>> > statement, but if you ctrl-space to select the class name..it >>>>>>>>>>> will -- >>>>>>>>>>> > WTF?!?!?? I've heard that FDT does a much better job at this. >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > I could go on.... >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > On Sep 21, 12:24 pm, game flash <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > Thanks for the quick rep... >>>>>>>>>>> > > On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 11:43 AM, Marvin Froeder < >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> > > > Flexmojos can work... >>>>>>>>>>> > > > Em 21/09/2010 12:41, "game_flash" < >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]>escreveu: >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > Has anyone successfully setup Maven/Flex Mojos with Flash >>>>>>>>>>> Develop IDE? >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > Please share expe... >>>>>>>>>>> > > > [email protected]<flex-mojos%[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>> <flex-mojos%[email protected]<flex-mojos%[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > <flex-mojos%[email protected]<flex-mojos%[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>> <flex-mojos%[email 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