We have a similar situation in that we have plenty of cash for investment, 
certainly more than some of the companies I have worked with in the past. The 
license is a small cost compared to the labor that goes into the projects. We 
also need to factor intraining and support and the like. I think the biggest 
gain with flex is the ability to have a very maliable interface that is 
designed to work over a service oriented architecture. 

However, I have a learning curve regardless of the platform I choose. I have 
comparable labor if I use comparable approaches architecture wise.

If I use quad processor boxes (I do), and if I have at least 3 zones per 
production site (I do, dev stg and production) plus local developer installs 
then I am looking at with current list prices, at least 4 licenses totalling 
48,000 per production stream.
That doesn't include a 12-30k list range for the CFMX licenses we are using for 
the middle tier cfc layer.

So I am left with the question, do I get an additional 48k of value going with 
Flex on top of my webservice architecture, versus the open source lazslo. And 
additionally do I get an additional 78k of value from flex of cfmx over using 
laszlo on bluedragon (with flashORB)?

Then the longer term question is, given the dearth of junior and mid level CF 
talent do I embark on a migration to J2EE or .NET? Where will the talent levels 
for Flex and Laszlo be in 2 or 3 years?

It is a tough question, but I can tell you this asp.net is free and pre 
installed, and I know it was hard to say let's spend more money to buy 
something that does the same function. And that was below the 10k local sign 
off limit. Above 10k all purchases need business cases ROI and have to be 
signed off at a MUCH higher level ( our NY divisional HQ)

An increase from 12 to 20 would make those decisions easier in a lot of ways.

-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Barnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 10:47:32 
To:[email protected]
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price

hehhehe funny, how we all suddnely commence a mass exodus.
 
 I won't comment on the price whether its rumour or not, but what I
 will comment is why I think either way it won't make that much of a
 difference (well its totally not my own opinion)
 
 At present in my company FLEX price tag was never a contention it was
 more about how will i get it into the business with minimal
 fuss/training required.
 
 If we were to pay $15k per CPU, then so be it. Most software we
 purchase thats tailored to an enterprise level is more then that -
 infact the intranet software we bought was higher in price and oh my,
 is it useless.
 
 The major selling point for us was how much $ would it take for
 someone to create what FLEX has on offer via DHTML or other
 technology - too much.
 
 FLEX is also a hard sell inside businesses. I know here in Australia
 the local Sales guys really have to put in the hard yards to get the
 sale made, and the end sale wasn't really worth the time and money
 invested (flights back and forth etc).
 
 I know, why not sell it much cheaper then? well again it would still
 require the same amount of sale - hand holding - to get over the line
 and at a lower price - furthermore it would have a larger takeup,
 which means sales folks will tied up with a lot of tyre kickers
 instead of real potential meaty customers. On top of this, if it was
 sold at $5k per CPU or something like that, there would be a lot of
 support required which in turn eats into profit margins for the
 product - recoup investments already outlayed. So in reality for a
 company thats publically listed and has a bunch of folk who demand
 profit margins, kinda damned if you do, damned if you don't.
 
 I am thankful that I have a company who is loaded with $$ so i can
 play with FLEX, but the future of FLEX is going to ramp up radically
 and so i can see pass the price tag and consider it a wise investment.
 
 
 
 
 -- 
 Regards,
 Scott Barnes
 http://www.mossyblog.com
 http://www.flexcoder.com (Coming Soon)
 
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