- Cross Platform
      - Silverlight is x-platform.
   - Much more traction and an established user base.
      - Depends on which brochure you want to read (Adobe/Microsoft), but
      we've got approx 20,000 folks registered on Silverlight.NET forums and
      there's approx 9,000+ here on this forum. Furthermore, Adobe's entire
      development population is measured in thousands, where as .NET folks are
      measured in millions. Given the industry is in what we'd call an upgrade
      phase, it will be interesting to see how this pans out in the near future
      and how the desktop vs web converge. We've not tapped into how many folks
      are using the Dynamic Language Runtime and given projects like the PHP
      community, may also swell the numbers further etc..(
      http://www.infoq.com/news/2008/01/Silverlight-PHP) we have more plans
      to grow Silverlight beyond the .NET way of life, its about standards and
      open source with us as well :) but hey, which brochure you want
to believe
      in is up to you.. no harm no foul.
   - Standard (client-side) libraries are allegedly a lot broader in Flex
   than Silverlight.
      - Again, depends on who's brochure you want to believe. We've got more
      third party vendors producing Silverlight/WPF related controls today, and
      Codeplex.com has 98 Silverlight specific projects available that
we know of.
      WPF and Silverlight have the ability share and re-use the same code base
      depending on specific features and so, this is kind of an open
debate with
      an unlikely definitive outcome in terms of a definition of win.
   - Not evil.
      - Microsoft isn't evil, its just me :) .. Evil is a typical term that
      at times is associated with the brand, but given half the people
I work with
      came from Apple/Adobe/Macromedia/IBM/Sun/Google? does that make
them evil as
      well in that when they handed in their identity badges at companies like
      Macromedia/Adobe did they pass through some gate which sprayed them with
      Evil? ..
   - Price.
      - Silverlight is Free as in beer, you can code in Visual Studio
      Express for free today and produce Silverlight. We're also seeing folks
      spin-up Eclipse like editors (eg:
      
http://arstechnica.com/journals/linux.ars/2007/09/03/lunar-eclipse-open-source-silverlight-design-tool-for-linux)
      for Silverlight and there are more and more being developed
today (in fact
      I'm meeting with someone on Monday about his editor +
Silverlight and other
      languages)

Adobe AIR's actual use in the mainstream is open for debate, but we believe
with Silverlight and WPF we've got all areas covered. We're also ensuring
Silverlight runtime works on the mobile in the future and at MIX we joined
forces with Nokia to make this a reality. The same runtime will work on the
desktop and device, and this means there will not be a "Silverlight lite" vs
"Silverlight" (as we've heard from customers around the problems of having
Flash lite vs Flash).

HTH.

On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 9:34 PM, Josh McDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>    Well the benefits (assuming silverlight as the other option) become:
>
> * Cross platform
> * Much more traction and an established user base
> * Standard (client-side) libraries are allegedly a lot broader in Flex than
> Silverlight. Just repeating what I've heard here though, I don't know for
> sure.
> * Not evil - IMHO of course, but this _is_ a Flex list ;-)
> * Don't quote me on this, but probably substantially cheaper (for a
> commercial license) unless you already have VS
>
> I don't know what capabilities the Silverlight equivalent of AIR has. But
> AIR apps will run on Mac Win and Linux, whereas Silverlight is Mac / Win
> (client plugin) only, development is Win only. Also the AIR equivalent may
> even be windows-clients only. Personally I avoid anything that means I'm
> stuck with any one platform. I like choice, what if the next Windows / OS X
> is awful?
>
> -Josh
>
>   On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 2:00 PM, itdanny2002 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
>>  But if the only to do the sync is to
>> install a program in desktop. Then,
>> any benefit of AIR is better than
>> Microsoft'stuf ? Sorry, it is a management
>> question so that we can sell our management
>> while our other development is on MS platform.
>> Inshort, any good point in AIR which is better ?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> --- In [email protected], "Josh McDonald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >
>> > Anything that lives in a browser is not going to be able to have a
>> local
>> > database, going to microsoft won't change that.
>> >
>> > On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 11:03 AM, itdanny2002 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > > I need to build a web-based Application which
>> > > has data in Client & Server, sync is required.
>> > >
>> > > AIR
>> > > ---
>> > > Support SQLite in client side - It's ok but we
>> > > want web-based so that installation is not
>> > > required. Go to anywhere, just a click to see
>> > > data.
>> > >
>> > > FLEX
>> > > ----
>> > > It can't have database operation such as SQLite
>> > > in client. I don't think cookie is a solution due
>> > > to large volume of data.
>> > >
>> > > I need to defence and stay in Flex faction in
>> > > my company. Any good point(s) that make me won't
>> > > in camp of VS.Net ?
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
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>> >
>> > --
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>> thee."
>> >
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