No I just think, the ummm indicated you might have taken my intent
wrongly.
I'm not trying to bash anyone on the list, and I'm not trying to bash
Adobe.
I am very concerned about Scene7.com though.
Again, let's all be cool and see how it pans out but PLEASE for OUR
own sakes keep an eye on it.
It appears to be the first major blur in the line between a Consumer
Computer User and a Professional Software Developer product.
One that could potentially undermine (not to the extent that the reply
to my post presumed) but at least to some significant extent, what
FLEX developers plan to do.
I'm not a Microsofty
I'm not against Adobe
I am concerned about where Scene7.com is headed.
Okay...stop personalizing this from this point forward and let's all
try to focus on Scene7.com as either good or bad for the FLEX
developer community.
The Webinar is tommorrow I believe and the Whitepaper by the CEO of
that division is published, so read it for yourself.
Developers young and experienced alike should be concerned about the
efforts they put into technology platforms, and how the results of
their work can be compromised (in Microsoft's case well documented in
the 1990's) to a great extent.
Macromedia was a great company, so was FutureWave, both innovative,
especially FutureWave in their light-weight plug-in which started this
all off in 1995 and 1996.
And Adobe seems to be a great company, but I'm holding neutral now
that I've looked into Scene7.com more and I will stay neutral and look
into this aggressively (not as in physical aggression but as in; what
is it's ultimate purpose and how does it perhaps clash with FLEX; why
the new division, why the new site).
We'll all see. In the end, if I'm wrong in 2 years, feel free to
Flame me. If I'm right, well then, it's bad for all of us.
-r
On Aug 26, 2008, at 7:07 PM, Doug McCune wrote:
ummm, looks like I got served
On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 3:58 PM, Robert Thompson
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
Oh, btw, you may want to take out the gum in your mouth before
posting.
It alleviates the "ummmmm" effect quite nicely.
No need for that, it's a sarcastic lead-in. j'off (signing off)
-r
On Aug 26, 2008, at 12:53 PM, Doug McCune wrote:
ummm, you're a flex consultant afraid of not having work because of
adobe? are you looking at the same market I am?
The "adobe is cannibalizing it's user base" argument might hold a
little water when it comes to the products they're developing (pshop
express, buzzword, etc). But god knows there's more Flex consulting
work out there than anyone knows what to do with. Try crying wolf
once
any semblance of a problem emerges. And has someone really fired you
because they started using scene 7? really?
Doug
On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 9:30 AM, Robert Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> Although I'll hold my breath until more and more info. is
released into the
> public.
>
> I'm a little concerned that Adobe is starting to get the "Take
over the
> world" vision with Scene 7.0
>
> They appear to be heading towards a consulting type service (as
well as
> selling to us developers) where people can create FLEX like sites
and
> experiences that were the hope and promise of developers to
capitalize on
> buy spending, in my case, $1,777 on the FLEX 3.0 with ILOG Elixr
components.
>
> I have many projects planned in this area.
>
> But when will come the day when someone says, "Oh, I just
purchase Adobe
> Scene 7.0, we don't need to contract you any longer".
>
> If this turns out to be the case, it will ultimately result in
the same
> Entropy demise of IBM, which was followed by Microsoft, and which
I hope
> Adobe does not plan to fall into.
>
> Why would a developer dedicate years of his life to APIs from
Adobe when,
> ultimately, the way things are turning out, why don't we just get
down to
> the GPU level an 'C' Program NVIDIA CUDO to do the ultimate in
3-4 years
> time, rather than let someone sucker us into purchasing products,
very
> expensive ones, only to turn and compete with us.
>
> Things are not looking pretty and it appears to me that Open
Source, ala,
> Blender instead of Maya, CUDO and Apache SOAP instead of
Coldfusion, and
> DHTML will perhaps some new submissions to the W3C -- perhaps
that's the new
> message us developers need to listen to.
>
> As Henry Rollins says in his great song "Liar", "Please, I'm
sorry, just
> give me anther chance....Ah, ha, ha, ha, ha,
oooooooooooooo.....SUCKER,
> Sucker.....aaaaahhhh, I like it (the money)....I FEEL GOOD".
>
> Do you feel good Adobe? Where do you want to go today?
>
> I'll follow this....if this heads where I think it is, I will put
out the
> message.
>
> -r
>
>
