Look buddy, everybody in here's been real polite so far. Fuck off.
-Josh On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 3:17 AM, Robert Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > To answer your question about any purchaser of Adobe products having to > "license" an example they put out for use. > > Microsoft, Adobe, nearly every company puts (C) Copyright statements in > it's examples. > > This is to prevent competitors from outright distributing code they have no > right to. > > As examples to the FLEX Builder Product Owner, these examples have a very > real place in teaching you how things are done. > > The Hybrid and Store 2.0 examples are frankly not as complicated as you > might think - as long as you base all your data exchange on XML. > > As long as you create your own system, I wouldn't worry about it. But the > future of AIR and Flash Player I would worry about. > > My hope is Papervision comes out with their own Plug-in; as at this point > and time, it's the perfect timing to let Flash Player 9 and earlier deal > with all the earlier sites. > > And spread the word, if they choose to develop one, a Papervision3D > plug-in, and began where FutureWave did, with a fresh new high performance > platform for Visual Computing. > > The IT integration with things like Cold Fusion can then happen in more of > a W3C and SOAP XML complaint way (Or RESTful XML way). > > I myself am playing things safer, including in the use of any ColdFusion, > by taking the following route: > > > - Using FTD Enterprise 3.0 <http://fdt.powerflasher.com/> as my IDE so > it's not an Adobe Product > - Using Open .SWF formats and tools, and Flash CS3 only when necessary > for my clients > - Working on a new Cycling '72 like visual interface for programming > and generating .SWF's (or hopefully .P3D's if Papervision3D hopefully goes > out on their own since it appears Adobe cannot be trusted and is getting > prideful and greedy in my opinion (what they're trying to do now with > Acrobat is a joke; and I thought that before the discoveries of last week) > - Encouraging Papervision3D to go out on their own and take this great > opportunity in time and be the next "FutureSplash" by developing their own > plug-in > - Integrating CUDO graphic support into OpenLaszlo.org version 4.0 > - Anything that allows use of Adobe products only when necessary, and > changing focus on W3C Standards and more reasonable people who are less > greedy to do not charge large sums of money to a development community and > then turn on them. Even Microsoft is not doing with Adobe is doing. I've > always saw them as a "deal with when necessary" company and was pulling for > them 100% until last week. I have no love for them at all anymore. I see > a > dark future for them as they are growing lustful obviously with the > possibilities of AIR. Things will change though. > > > The safest route at this time while Adobe is creating FLEX applications for > these companies, is to take a step back, and big breath, and look at the > long-term future of the Web. > > Look at the clients they have served on Scene7.com and the *fact* that a > FLEX interface is, was, and will continue to be used to complete projects > like the NIKE project (which many of us on this list have the capability of > doing) > > Here's the NIKE project, > > > http://www.nike.com/index.jhtml?cp=USNS_AD_0724081536&l=nikestore,grid,_pdp,cid-1/gid-98967/pid-98967,_grid,f-35015%2010001&re=US&co=US&la=EN#l=nikestore,grid,_pdp,cid-1/gid-98967/pid-98967,_grid,f-35015%2010001&re=US&co=US&la=EN<http://www.nike.com/index.jhtml?cp=USNS_AD_0724081536&l=nikestore,grid,_pdp,cid-1/gid-98967/pid-98967,_grid,f-35015%252010001&re=US&co=US&la=EN%23l=nikestore,grid,_pdp,cid-1/gid-98967/pid-98967,_grid,f-35015%252010001&re=US&co=US&la=EN> > > Here's the client list that some of FLEX coders who spent money on projects > could have possibly bid on (whether it's ELanc.com or any of the other > freelance, or bidding hubs out there), > > 1154 LILL STUDIO > AdsPay USA > AGAM Group, Ltd. > Aircraft Shopper Online > AlluraDirect.com > Al's Formal Wear > Amazon.com > Anderson Press Incorporated > Annalee Mobilitee Dolls, Inc. > Ann Taylor > Anthropologie > ARTstor > Art Van Furniture > Auction123, Inc. > Baghaus > Bare Necessities > Baseball Express, Inc. > Bass Pro Shops > Bassett Furniture > Bath & Body Works > Beall's Department Stores, Inc. > Beau Ties Ltd. of Vermont > Behr Paint > Benchmark Brands > Bernie & Phyl's Furniture > Bertolini Sanctuary Seating > Best & Co. > Blockbuster > Bloomingdale's > Bombay Company > Brewster Wallcovering Company > Bronner's CHRISTmas Wonderland > Butterfield & Robinson > California State University at Fullerton > Calvert Education Services > Casual Male Retail Group, Inc. > CATFootwear.com > Cathy's Concept > Cendant > Chaparral Motorsports > Chicago Historical Society > Chic Mystique > Children's Wear Digest > Cloudveil > Club Colors > Coldwater Creek > Commemorative Brands > Cookie Lee > Corporate Express > Cost Plus, Inc. > CPA2Biz > Cutter & Buck > David's Bridal > DayTimers > Delightful Deliveries > Delta Faucet Company > Dennis Kirk > Design Center Solutions (DCS) > Design Toscano > Design Within Reach > Diamond H Recognition > Direct Supply, Inc. > Drexel Heritage Furniture Industries, Inc. > DoItYourself.com > eBags.com > eBizAutos > Eddie Bauer > Eileen Fisher, Inc > EMI Plastic Equipment > enavia.com > Exclusively Weddings > ExOfficio > F. Schumacher & Co. > Fathead > Filativa > Finestationery.com > Fiori Belli > Follett Higher Education Group > Fortunoff.com > Forzieri > Foto Source Canada Inc > Fresh Produce > Furniturefind.com > Furniture Village > FutureStock > G&K Services > Gaiam > Gevalia Kaffe > Gienow Windows & Doors > Golfsmith > Gottschalks > GreatOccasions.com > Gucci Group N.V. > Hammacher Schlemmer > Hancock Fabrics > Hanna Andersson > Harley Davidson > Harrods.com > Hartford York > Hartmann, Inc. > Hartwell Classic Apparel > Havertys Furniture > Heritage > Hershey Co., The > Historic Golf > The Home Depot > Hunter Douglas > HSN > Hush Puppies > ICM Corporation > Illuminations > Intermix > Jessops > J & R Music > J. C. Penney Corporation, Inc. > JustBlinds.com > Justin Brands > Kaleidoscope > KI > kimiko fisika > LaCrosse Footwear, Inc. > LAMPS PLUS > Lands' End > La-Z-Boy > Learning Resources(R) > Lenox, Inc. > Levenger > Levi Strauss & Co. > Lillian Vernon > Long Meadow Ranch > LustreColor > Macys.com > Mannington Mills, Inc. > Material Flow and Conveyor Systems > Men's Wearhouse > Merrell > Mervyns > Metro Uniforms > Mitchell Gold > Momentum Group > Moosejaw Mountaineering > Mothercare > Mount Vernon Nazarene University > NapaStyle > National Business Furniture > Nectar > New Balance Athletic Shoe, Inc. > NewOrleansOnline.com > NINFRA > Northwestern University > Odimo > Office Depot, Inc. > OhioLINK > Ohio State University > Oli > OTTO UK > Pacific Coast Lighting > Pacific Sunwear > PalmBeach Jewelry > Paradise Pen > Party Rental Ltd > Pendleton Woolen Mills > Personal Creations > PETCO > Plum Island Silver Company > Polaris > Polo Ralph Lauren Corporation > Pottery Barn > Pottery Barn Kids > President's Choice > Professional Cutlery Direct > PUMA North America > Punch! Software > Quixtar > QVC > Randall K Designers Experss > R.C. Bigelow > Reading Glasses To Go > Re-Bath > Redcats USA > Red Hats and More > Restoration Hardware > Rhodes Furniture > Road Runner Sports, Inc. > Robb & Stucky > Roman, Inc. > S&S Worldwide > Samuels Jewelers > Scripps Networks > Sears > Sea Gull Lighting > Shari's Berries > Shaw Industries, Inc. > Shofu Dental Corporation > Shop.org > Siegler & Co. > Sierra Trading Post > SmartWool(R) > Smith & Noble > Sources2go.com > Sportsman's Guide > Springs Window Fashions LP > Stage Stores, Inc. > Stumps Printing, Inc. > The Boy Scouts of America > The Conran Shop > The Shade Store > The Shopping Channel > Thomasville > Title Nine > Tommy Hilfiger Corporation > Track 'n Trail > Treasures From a Bygone Era > Tropitone > TSC Apparel > Tuesday Morning > Ulla Popken > Under Armour > United Retail Group > UpFootgear.com > Urban Decay > Vann's > Veer > Vera Bradley > Venus Swimwear > Victoria 's Secret > VML > Wehkamp > west elm > Williams-Sonoma, Inc. > Williams-Sonoma Home > Wolverine World Wide > Workbookstock.com > Zillow.com > > > > > > On Aug 31, 2008, at 7:11 AM, Josh McDonald wrote: > > > Hey Guys, > > Wondering what the license is on the Flexstore code? Can it be used as a > basis for commercial products? > > And don't look at me like that, it's not my idea. > > -Josh > > -- > "Therefore, send not to know For whom the bell tolls. It tolls for thee." > > :: Josh 'G-Funk' McDonald > :: 0437 221 380 :: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > -- "Therefore, send not to know For whom the bell tolls. It tolls for thee." :: Josh 'G-Funk' McDonald :: 0437 221 380 :: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
