Reports of Flash's demise are premature to say the least. I think Flash will likely be around for some time and will live long and prosper in a variety of contexts. Steve isn't seeing the future so much as trying to create a future that provides best competitive advantage to Apple. And of course, as Adobe is fond of saying, Flash will push the envelope as to what is possible. It will remains to be seen how compelling a case Flash makes for itself, but I'm not going to drop kick Flash just Steve Jobs says I should. He ain't my pal. ________________________________ From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcod...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Adnan Doric Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 10:25 AM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Cc: Guy Morton Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Re: With the latest eula agreement from Apple
On 14/04/2010 13:10, Guy Morton wrote: Flipping this whole discussion on its head for a moment.... Adobe used to have the best SVG runtime player in the land. It was fast, had good support for the SVG standard and it was stable. Then Adobe bought Macromedia. They discontinued development and support for their SVG player because now they had Flash! Adobe could, I'm sure, alter their Flash development tools to output SVG+Javascript. In fact, I'd be surprised if they hadn't already experimented with this. If Adobe was as smart as they think they are, they'd RIGHT NOW fast-track SVG+Javascript export into Flex and Flash IDEs. This would let them become the premier tool for developing iPhone apps, standards-based web vector animations and would encourage adoption of open standards at such a rate that it'd hobble Silverlight into the bargain! Flash is here because standards sucks. When standards will be good enough, flash will disappear, bunt won't happen anytime soon. Of course that is just an idle dream, and instead they will keep pushing their proprietary solution and wait for the killer open-standards IDE that will allow developers to make full use of HTML 5 to pop up and change the market for them. Then we will see Flash become a thing of the past. eg check this out http://demo.sproutcore.com/sample_controls/ Look familiar? Look ma! NO plugins, just HTML 5! I don't know for others, but it reminds me of Flash 5 ten years old with extra crossbrowser issues. Let me think... hell no, don't want to go there :) Maybe in few years HTML will be like flash 8, and few more years it will be like flash 10. There will be flash 16 and AS4 by the time, another gap for HTML to reach. So, yeah, good luck with your HTML mate, I wish you good luck, really. Vale Flash, you have been good to us, but your time is drawing to a close. Steve Jobs has seen the future, and Flash ain't there. Guy The future where Apple dictates what you can install on your phone, what you can see on the web, what music you can listen ? Sound great, see you there :)
