On 15/04/2010, at 1:34 AM, Battershall, Jeff wrote: > > Reports of Flash’s demise are premature to say the least. I think Flash will > likely be around for some time and will live long and prosper in a variety of > contexts. Steve isn’t seeing the future so much as trying to create a future > that provides best competitive advantage to Apple. And of course, as Adobe > is fond of saying, Flash will push the envelope as to what is possible. It > will remains to be seen how compelling a case Flash makes for itself, but I’m > not going to drop kick Flash just Steve Jobs says I should. He ain’t my pal. >
I never said Flash's demise was imminent. I see flash continuing in some form for decades. I hope it will continue to make cool things possible. I see HTML5 becoming and increasingly popular way to do what many people use Flash to do today. I think over the next 3 years we will see many many apps developed in HTML 5 instead of Flash/Flex/Silverlight, because what they need to do will be possible in HTML 5. Given that one reason for Flash's dominance has been it was the only way to do simple animations, I see it losing a lot of market share unless Adobe adapts to the new reality. That's my point. Guy > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Adnan Doric > Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 10:25 AM > To: [email protected] > Cc: Guy Morton > Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Re: With the latest eula agreement from Apple > > > > > > On 14/04/2010 13:10, Guy Morton wrote: > > > > Flipping this whole discussion on its head for a moment.... > > > > Adobe used to have the best SVG runtime player in the land. It was fast, had > good support for the SVG standard and it was stable. > > > > Then Adobe bought Macromedia. They discontinued development and support for > their SVG player because now they had Flash! > > > > Adobe could, I'm sure, alter their Flash development tools to output > SVG+Javascript. In fact, I'd be surprised if they hadn't already experimented > with this. > > > > If Adobe was as smart as they think they are, they'd RIGHT NOW fast-track > SVG+Javascript export into Flex and Flash IDEs. This would let them become > the premier tool for developing iPhone apps, standards-based web vector > animations and would encourage adoption of open standards at such a rate that > it'd hobble Silverlight into the bargain! > > > > > Flash is here because standards sucks. When standards will be good enough, > flash will disappear, bunt won't happen anytime soon. > > > > Of course that is just an idle dream, and instead they will keep pushing > their proprietary solution and wait for the killer open-standards IDE that > will allow developers to make full use of HTML 5 to pop up and change the > market for them. Then we will see Flash become a thing of the past. > > > > eg check this out > > > > http://demo.sproutcore.com/sample_controls/ > > > > Look familiar? Look ma! NO plugins, just HTML 5! > > > > I don't know for others, but it reminds me of Flash 5 ten years old with > extra crossbrowser issues. > Let me think... hell no, don't want to go there :) > > Maybe in few years HTML will be like flash 8, and few more years it will be > like flash 10. There will be flash 16 and AS4 by the time, another gap for > HTML to reach. > > So, yeah, good luck with your HTML mate, I wish you good luck, really. > > > > Vale Flash, you have been good to us, but your time is drawing to a close. > Steve Jobs has seen the future, and Flash ain't there. > > > > Guy > > > > The future where Apple dictates what you can install on your phone, what you > can see on the web, what music you can listen ? > Sound great, see you there :) > > > > > >
