Thanks for that. You're right; I'd never heard of it before. All I ever knew 
about was SproutCore.

--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Johannes Nel <johannes.nel@...> wrote:
>
> look, i don't want to get into a fight with people, but i can really say
> that the google closure toolset makes every other html/javascript approach
> look absolutely stoneage. a compiler, i mean a real compiler,
> it eliminates dead code, does your optimisations for you, you don't have to
> write javascript like you are the compiler. if you play nice and religiously
> annotate your code, you get static type checking (huge benefit!) proper OO,
> interfaces (granted no way to really do is-A)
> 
> lots of components
> http://closure-library.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/closure/goog/demos/
> 
> components actually have a livecycle (believe me, for most people playing
> around with javascript this is a radical concept).
> there is a framework (called relief), but i don't use it, it is not trying
> to solve the problems I am solving. I implemented my own binding system in a
> matter of hours, you can even add your own passes to the compiler (at any
> point, so pre abstract syntax tree (AST) or use the AST to do your own
> transforms)
> 
> I tend to code in netbeans since the code completion is decent and I can
> also say the chrome debugger and profiler is extremely sweet. other people
> use different tools.
> 
> if you like flex I think you will like closure, it is like the step up from
> flash to flex which I took in 2004 and I went like whooooaaa this is
> awesome.
> check this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3uWx-fhjUc
> 
> now the bad, people don't seem to know about it, so it does not get all the
> loving it deserves, the lists however are extremely responsive (there are
> lists for all the different parts of the toolsets, but using all of them
> together makes for insane results)
> the compiler is not very fast, but using stuff like plovr (build tool)
> people make life pretty easy.
> 
> i am just going to flame here as a finish, but jquery is for building mom
> and pop crap, if you plan to do any kind of real development in javascript
> and you like your wrists, closure is really the only way to go IMO.
> 
> On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 9:52 PM, jamesfin <james.alan.finnigan@...>wrote:
> 
> > **
> >
> >
> > As a devoted flex developer of over five years now, I'm getting the nudge
> > by management to get as comfortable with HTML5/Javascript as I currently am
> > with MXML/Actionscript. Not my decision.
> >
> > That said, I figured this forum would be better suited to answer a few
> > questions about html5/javascript rather than a endure throught a few
> > flash-hater filled javascript forums. ;)
> >
> > Knowing the following about common flex development practices, what are the
> > analogs with flex when using javascript, if any at all?
> >
> > FlashBuilder = ? (i.e. dreamweaver?)
> > MXML = HTML
> > Actionscript = Javascript
> > RobotLegs = ?
> > AS3Signals = ?
> > Others, feel free to contribute...
> >
> > Also,
> > Using Robotlegs affords many comforts towards MVC development practices. In
> > that context, can other analogs be made in HTML5/Javascript where separate
> > files are used for each of these areas? Links and/or examples would be
> > great.
> >
> > View = ?
> > Mediator = ?
> > Service = ?
> > Model = ?
> > Controller = ?
> > Dependency Injection = ?
> > Signals = ?
> >
> > It would appear as if SproutCore shares some of the attributes we enjoy in
> > Flex but would like to hear what Javascripts frameworks are most friendly to
> > Flex Developers.
> >
> > Thanks in advance!
> >
> >  
> >
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> j:pn
> \\no comment
>


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