Is it just me or doesn't Google seem like the type of company that would not want to get involved with third party products such as Adobe and Flex. I would think they would never use Flex.
--- In [email protected], "Michael Schmalle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Figure of speech... ;-) > > First you boild the water, > then you add the pudding mix & milk, > then you stir with love, > then you let simmer, > then you refirgerate for half a day, > then it taste mmm mm good. > > But, it wans't pudding to begin with, only if you read the directions first. > :) > > Peace, Mike > > On 3/13/06, dos dedos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Usable pudding? > > > > > > *Michael Schmalle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote: > > > > I think it will be 'the proof is in the pudding'. > > > > BTW, isn't it the actual developers like us that make a technology seen > > and be competitive ? :) It's all in the implementation, meaning, users are > > conditioned to what they see and if they see usable flex2 apps in a year, > > paradigm shift happens. > > > > Peace, Mike > > > > On 3/13/06, dos dedos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > I agree re: no envangelism > > > > > > However, it's very helpful for some of of us to understand the context > > > and not just the content of what we're getting into. :) > > > > > > > > > > > > *Nick Weekes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote: > > > > > > personally id rather not see a technology evangelism debate appear on > > > this forum, thats a little OT for my liking. > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On > > > Behalf Of *Jignesh Dodiya > > > *Sent:* 13 March 2006 18:17 > > > *To:* [email protected] > > > *Subject:* Re: [flexcoders] Google, Yahoo hooked on AJAX? > > > > > > Jesse has really a mature idea on this...................... > > > Don't u think, this forum can be more fruitfull if anybody from Adobe do > > > share his/her idea on this forum. Afterall its their duty to make people > > > encourage to use flex over AJAX, and the community always likes to hear Flex > > > expert's comment on such intensive topic????? > > > > > > > > > > > > On 3/13/06, dos dedos < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > << > > > > Yahoo has a lot of efforts in regards to Flex & Flash, you just > > > > probably haven't read about them, is all, or they didn't get as widely > > > > publicized. > > > > >> > > > > > > > > That's what I wanted to find out ... thanks for pointing it out!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > *JesterXL < [EMAIL PROTECTED] >* wrote: > > > > > > > > AJAX is here, works, has a large community, is an old technology and > > > > thus has a plethora of resources. Flex 2 isn't publicy out yet in an > > > > official capacity and Flex 1.5's price point excludes a lot of those > > > > types of endeavors. > > > > > > > > Yahoo uses both; they are a big company. Yahoo Maps utilized Flex 1.5. > > > > They should of used Flash Player 8's bitmap features so it wasn't the best > > > > use of Flex, but it at least got us on the radar. They are also > > > > experiementing with updating some of the Java games to Flash. > > > > > > > > Again, neither Google nor Yahoo can utilize Flex 2 because even if > > > > they did, no one could see it. Flash Player 8.5 is beta, not publicly > > > > available, and you have to download the entire Flex 2 package just to get it > > > > (which is a good thing). > > > > > > > > Yahoo has a lot of efforts in regards to Flex & Flash, you just > > > > probably haven't read about them, is all, or they didn't get as widely > > > > publicized. > > > > > > > > Bottom line, AJAX is here, has been for awhile, and works. Flex 2 > > > > isn't even out yet. Sparkle's awesome, but you don't see people, even > > > > Microsoft, creating Sparkle apps. > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- *From: * dos dedos > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > *To:* [email protected] > > > > *Sent:* Monday, March 13, 2006 12:24 PM > > > > *Subject:* [flexcoders] Google, Yahoo hooked on AJAX? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Google has purchased at least one company that uses Flash or Flex (a > > > > Web analytics startup) but their own internal efforts seem to be always > > > > focused on AJAX ... e.g. the latest Google Mars (http://www.google.com/mars/ > > > > ) > > > > > > > > So it's fair to wonder why Google isn't doing more with Flex at this > > > > time ... and why Flickr (Yahoo) moved from Flash to AJAX ... especially > > > > given the fact that Flex 2 has a lot going for it from technical and > > > > end-user perspectives. > > > > > > > > Attitudes change over time and new technologies take a while to adopt, > > > > but it'd be nice to understand whether or not Google, Yahoo and others are > > > > consciously resisting Flex based on some non-technical reason (e.g. > > > > the fact that Flex is a proprietary platform whereas AJAX is not.) > > > > > > > > Google's and Yahoo's position doesn't matter all that much as far as > > > > market adoption for Flex, but it would be interesting to understand the > > > > strategic reasons why Google, Yahoo and other major players (e.g. > > > > eBay) have so far prefer! red to stick with AJAX. > > > > > > > > An interesting position for Google and Yahoo would be to endorse AJAX > > > > half of the time and Flex the other half, or two thrids to one. This way > > > > they would keep the market from leaning too heavily in favor of either. But > > > > as of now, they're leaning too heavily in favor of AJAX, yet it's very > > > > possible that they'll release (or acquire) something based on Flex 2 in the > > > > future. > > > > > > > > I believe Sun has been very successful with Java on the server side > > > > ... Flex could become as popular on the client side as Java is on the server > > > > side if it's opened up in the style of the Java Community Process. > > > > > > > > Just curious if anyone has any insights about where Adobe may be going > > > > with Flex ... ? > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Yahoo! Mail > > > > Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail > > > > <http://pa.yahoo.com/*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=39174/*http://photomail.mail.yahoo.com>makes > > > > sharing a breeze. > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Yahoo! 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