On 3/14/06,
Kevin Ewok <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Is it just me or doesn't Google seem like the type of company that
would not want to get involved with third party products such as Adobe
and Flex. I would think they would never use Flex.
--- In [email protected], "Michael Schmalle"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Figure of speech... ;-)
>
> First you boild the water,
> then you add the pudding mix & milk,
> then you stir with love,
> then you let simmer,
> then you refirgerate for half a day,
> then it taste mmm mm good.
>
> But, it wans't pudding to begin with, only if you read the
directions first.
> :)
>
> Peace, Mike
>
> On 3/13/06, dos dedos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Usable pudding?
> >
> >
> > *Michael Schmalle < [EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote:
> >
> > I think it will be 'the proof is in the pudding'.
> >
> > BTW, isn't it the actual developers like us that make a technology
seen
> > and be competitive ? :) It's all in the implementation, meaning,
users are
> > conditioned to what they see and if they see usable flex2 apps in
a year,
> > paradigm shift happens.
> >
> > Peace, Mike
> >
> > On 3/13/06, dos dedos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > I agree re: no envangelism
> > >
> > > However, it's very helpful for some of of us to understand the
context
> > > and not just the content of what we're getting into. :)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > *Nick Weekes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote:
> > >
> > > personally id rather not see a technology evangelism debate
appear on
> > > this forum, thats a little OT for my liking.
> > >
> > > ------------------------------
> > > *From:* [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] *On
> > > Behalf Of *Jignesh Dodiya
> > > *Sent:* 13 March 2006 18:17
> > > *To:* [email protected]
> > > *Subject:* Re: [flexcoders] Google, Yahoo hooked on AJAX?
> > >
> > > Jesse has really a mature idea on this......................
> > > Don't u think, this forum can be more fruitfull if anybody from
Adobe do
> > > share his/her idea on this forum. Afterall its their duty to
make people
> > > encourage to use flex over AJAX, and the community always likes
to hear Flex
> > > expert's comment on such intensive topic?????
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 3/13/06, dos dedos < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > <<
> > > > Yahoo has a lot of efforts in regards to Flex & Flash, you just
> > > > probably haven't read about them, is all, or they didn't get
as widely
> > > > publicized.
> > > > >>
> > > >
> > > > That's what I wanted to find out ... thanks for pointing it out!!!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > *JesterXL < [EMAIL PROTECTED] >* wrote:
> > > >
> > > > AJAX is here, works, has a large community, is an old
technology and
> > > > thus has a plethora of resources. Flex 2 isn't publicy out
yet in an
> > > > official capacity and Flex 1.5's price point excludes a lot of
those
> > > > types of endeavors.
> > > >
> > > > Yahoo uses both; they are a big company. Yahoo Maps utilized
Flex 1.5.
> > > > They should of used Flash Player 8's bitmap features so it
wasn't the best
> > > > use of Flex, but it at least got us on the radar. They are also
> > > > experiementing with updating some of the Java games to Flash.
> > > >
> > > > Again, neither Google nor Yahoo can utilize Flex 2 because even if
> > > > they did, no one could see it. Flash Player 8.5 is beta, not
publicly
> > > > available, and you have to download the entire Flex 2 package
just to get it
> > > > (which is a good thing).
> > > >
> > > > Yahoo has a lot of efforts in regards to Flex & Flash, you just
> > > > probably haven't read about them, is all, or they didn't get
as widely
> > > > publicized.
> > > >
> > > > Bottom line, AJAX is here, has been for awhile, and works. Flex 2
> > > > isn't even out yet. Sparkle's awesome, but you don't see
people, even
> > > > Microsoft, creating Sparkle apps.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message ----- *From: * dos dedos
> > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > *To:* [email protected]
> > > > *Sent:* Monday, March 13, 2006 12:24 PM
> > > > *Subject:* [flexcoders] Google, Yahoo hooked on AJAX?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Google has purchased at least one company that uses Flash or
Flex (a
> > > > Web analytics startup) but their own internal efforts seem to
be always
> > > > focused on AJAX ... e.g. the latest Google Mars
(http://www.google.com/mars/
> > > > )
> > > >
> > > > So it's fair to wonder why Google isn't doing more with Flex
at this
> > > > time ... and why Flickr (Yahoo) moved from Flash to AJAX ...
especially
> > > > given the fact that Flex 2 has a lot going for it from
technical and
> > > > end-user perspectives.
> > > >
> > > > Attitudes change over time and new technologies take a while
to adopt,
> > > > but it'd be nice to understand whether or not Google, Yahoo
and others are
> > > > consciously resisting Flex based on some non-technical reason
(e.g.
> > > > the fact that Flex is a proprietary platform whereas AJAX is not.)
> > > >
> > > > Google's and Yahoo's position doesn't matter all that much as
far as
> > > > market adoption for Flex, but it would be interesting to
understand the
> > > > strategic reasons why Google, Yahoo and other major players (e.g.
> > > > eBay) have so far prefer! red to stick with AJAX.
> > > >
> > > > An interesting position for Google and Yahoo would be to
endorse AJAX
> > > > half of the time and Flex the other half, or two thrids to
one. This way
> > > > they would keep the market from leaning too heavily in favor
of either. But
> > > > as of now, they're leaning too heavily in favor of AJAX, yet
it's very
> > > > possible that they'll release (or acquire) something based on
Flex 2 in the
> > > > future.
> > > >
> > > > I believe Sun has been very successful with Java on the server
side
> > > > ... Flex could become as popular on the client side as Java is
on the server
> > > > side if it's opened up in the style of the Java Community
Process.
> > > >
> > > > Just curious if anyone has any insights about where Adobe may
be going
> > > > with Flex ... ?
> > > >
> > > > Marc
> > > >
> > > >
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