Re: [flexcoders] Re: Google, Yahoo hooked on AJAX?

Tue, 14 Mar 2006 08:20:21 -0800


The Flex/Flash company I was referring to (that was purchased recently by Google) is called MeasureMap (http://measuremap.com/) 

I had read about it on some blog a while ago that said it was based on Flex, but they don't have any demos yet (which would make sense if it's based on Flex 2)

It's great to know that Yahoo is already working with Flex. I didn't know that. That was the second piece of evidence needed before concluding that Google, Yahoo and others have no issues incorporating Flex into their strategy.

This conclusion is further supported by the recent announcement of the AJAX-Flex bridge.

I have no doubt now that Google, Yahoo and others have already started working with Flex.



Kevin Ewok <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Is it just me or doesn't Google seem like the type of company that
would not want to get involved with third party products such as Adobe
and Flex. I would think they would never use Flex.

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> Figure of speech... ;-)
>
> First you boild the water,
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> On 3/13/06, dos dedos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Usable pudding?
> >
> >
> > *Michael Schmalle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote:
> >
> > I think it will be 'the proof is in the pudding'.
> >
> > BTW, isn't it the actual developers like us that make a technology
seen
> > and be competitive ? :) It's all in the implementation, meaning,
users are
> > conditioned to what they see and if they see usable flex2 apps in
a year,
> > paradigm shift happens.
> >
> > Peace, Mike
> >
> > On 3/13/06, dos dedos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > >  I agree re: no envangelism
> > >
> > > However, it's very helpful for some of of us to understand the
context
> > > and not just the content of what we're getting into. :)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > *Nick Weekes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote:
> > >
> > > personally id rather not see a technology evangelism debate
appear on
> > > this forum, thats a little OT for my liking.
> > >
> > >  ------------------------------
> > > *From:* [email protected]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On
> > > Behalf Of *Jignesh Dodiya
> > > *Sent:* 13 March 2006 18:17
> > > *To:* [email protected]
> > > *Subject:* Re: [flexcoders] Google, Yahoo hooked on AJAX?
> > >
> > >  Jesse has really a mature idea on this......................
> > > Don't u think, this forum can be more fruitfull if anybody from
Adobe do
> > > share his/her idea on this forum. Afterall its their duty to
make people
> > > encourage to use flex over AJAX, and the community always likes
to hear Flex
> > > expert's comment on such intensive topic?????
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 3/13/06, dos dedos < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > <<
> > > >  Yahoo has a lot of efforts in regards to Flex & Flash, you just
> > > > probably haven't read about them, is all, or they didn't get
as widely
> > > > publicized.
> > > > >>
> > > >
> > > > That's what I wanted to find out ... thanks for pointing it out!!!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > *JesterXL < [EMAIL PROTECTED] >* wrote:
> > > >
> > > > AJAX is here, works, has a large community, is an old
technology and
> > > > thus has a plethora of resources.  Flex 2 isn't publicy out
yet in an
> > > > official capacity and Flex 1.5's price point excludes a lot of
those
> > > > types of endeavors.
> > > >
> > > > Yahoo uses both; they are a big company.  Yahoo Maps utilized
Flex 1.5.
> > > > They should of used Flash Player 8's bitmap features so it
wasn't the best
> > > > use of Flex, but it at least got us on the radar.  They are also
> > > > experiementing with updating some of the Java games to Flash.
> > > >
> > > > Again, neither Google nor Yahoo can utilize Flex 2 because even if
> > > > they did, no one could see it. Flash Player 8.5 is beta, not
publicly
> > > > available, and you have to download the entire Flex 2 package
just to get it
> > > > (which is a good thing).
> > > >
> > > > Yahoo has a lot of efforts in regards to Flex & Flash, you just
> > > > probably haven't read about them, is all, or they didn't get
as widely
> > > > publicized.
> > > >
> > > > Bottom line, AJAX is here, has been for awhile, and works.  Flex 2
> > > > isn't even out yet.  Sparkle's awesome, but you don't see
people, even
> > > > Microsoft, creating Sparkle apps.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >  ----- Original Message ----- *From: * dos dedos
> > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > *To:* [email protected]
> > > > *Sent:* Monday, March 13, 2006 12:24 PM
> > > > *Subject:* [flexcoders] Google, Yahoo hooked on AJAX?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Google has purchased at least one company that uses Flash or
Flex (a
> > > > Web analytics startup) but their own internal efforts seem to
be always
> > > > focused on AJAX ... e.g. the latest Google Mars
(http://www.google.com/mars/
> > > > )
> > > >
> > > > So it's fair to wonder why Google isn't doing more with Flex
at this
> > > > time ... and why Flickr (Yahoo) moved from Flash to AJAX ...
especially
> > > > given the fact that Flex 2 has a lot going for it from
technical and
> > > > end-user perspectives.
> > > >
> > > > Attitudes change over time and new technologies take a while
to adopt,
> > > > but it'd be nice to understand whether or not Google, Yahoo
and others are
> > > > consciously resisting Flex based on some non-technical reason
(e.g.
> > > > the fact that Flex is a proprietary platform whereas AJAX is not.)
> > > >
> > > > Google's and Yahoo's position doesn't matter all that much as
far as
> > > > market adoption for Flex, but it would be interesting to
understand the
> > > > strategic reasons why Google, Yahoo and other major players (e.g.
> > > > eBay) have so far prefer! red to stick with AJAX.
> > > >
> > > > An interesting position for Google and Yahoo would be to
endorse AJAX
> > > > half of the time and Flex the other half, or two thrids to
one. This way
> > > > they would keep the market from leaning too heavily in favor
of either. But
> > > > as of now, they're leaning too heavily in favor of AJAX, yet
it's very
> > > > possible that they'll release (or acquire) something based on
Flex 2 in the
> > > > future.
> > > >
> > > > I believe Sun has been very successful with Java on the server
side
> > > > ... Flex could become as popular on the client side as Java is
on the server
> > > > side if  it's opened up in the style of the Java Community
Process.
> > > >
> > > > Just curious if anyone has any insights about where Adobe may
be going
> > > > with Flex ... ?
> > > >
> > > > Marc
> > > >
> > > >
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