> What this also does is make it more difficult for developers to
> convince management that the Flex product is better.  Especially
> when all they hear is AJAX this and AJAX that.

I recently got into a discussion on this, well it really wasn't a
discussion.  I was asked to giv e input on Flex to a internal
architecture team.  THey had written a quick doc about RIA and using
it on our customer facing apps in the future.  The doc had several
incorrect stetements about Flex/Flash RIA.  One was 'Flash player is
full of security holes'.

comparing Flex to AJAX I told them that currently no company really is
behind AJAX in the sense of SLAs and such.  they quickly retorted that
IBM Websphere supports it.  Seeing as these folks live in a 'White
Paper' world, I didn't bother to continue the 'discussion'.  Look
around the websphere info, yeah sure you can use AJAX with websphere,
but are tools and support and debugging and such built into the IDE
yet?  Does websphere have its own prototype.js that they support when
things go wrong at 3 AM?

DK

On 5/25/06, jwc_wensan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> To all:
>
> Got this email today, http://ajax.sys-con.com/ and it got me to
> thinking.
>
> I may get blasted for this, but here goes . . . just my .0199 cents.
>
> Let me first say I believe 100% that the Flex platform is a
> better "mousetrap".  I am currently developing applications with
> Flex.  I prefer Flex.
>
> However, you can not open a software magazine, newsletter, journal,
> article, etc. that doesn't reference something about AJAX.  It's
> everywhere.  Adobe's Flex gets an "honorable mention".
>
> I have been in the software business for over 27 years.  I have seen
> many companies come and go that had a better "mousetrap".  I also
> realize that most end users do not care if a desktop app is
> developed with Visual C++ or Visual Basic.  So why would they care
> what a RIA app is developed with.  Probably not.
>
> In the end it is the application not the engine.
>
> There seems to be a parallel between PCs with Windows and
> Apple/Macs.  Many believe that the Mac is better, but Apple/Mac has
> less the 5% of the market.
>
> Can Adobe accept 5% market share?
>
> You also can not under estimate the impact when Microsoft releases
> Atlas.  And no Robert I don't want to hear about how you hate MS or
> the evil empire.  Fact is, tens of thousands of developers will and
> I say will use their product.
>
> What this also does is make it more difficult for developers to
> convince management that the Flex product is better.  Especially
> when all they hear is AJAX this and AJAX that.
>
> AJAX is getting all the hype.  Right or wrong these are the facts.
> They have essentially taken over the RIA landscape and claimed it as
> their own.
>
> My point . . . . Adobe you need to step up to the plate.  If you
> think you can wait, then by the time you start you will be too far
> behind.  You will be left behind always playing catch-up.  If
> you want to reach that 1 million developer goal, it needs to start
> now.
>
> To be better and say you are better is not enough.  If the industry
> has already declared AJAX as the RIA industry leader then it becomes
> too late.
>
> From a market perception, look how AJAX has evolved in the last
> year.  Compare that to Adobe Flex.  Adobe you are asking developers
> to make a commitment to you, well I think you need to increase your
> commitment to us.
>
> Now is the time to promote to the industry and the general public as
> a whole about the value of Flex.
>
> Again, just my opinion.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Jack
>
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