Is this kind of message adding any value to the flexcoders comunity? I don't think so. I think that this forum should stay focused on Flex core issues and let time speak about how successfull is Flex vs.others or how much better is Adobe vs.other software vendors.

Kind regards,
Valy

Robert Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
You guys at ADOBE are doing great and are going far above what many organizations will do.  And most of all YOU CAN BE TRUSTED.

Anyone (like this guy) who complains about support in a Beta should have a little more patience.  By the way, you may want to make sure he doesn't have an alias named "Steve Barkto" (Google "Steve Barkto Incident" :-)

Plus, everyone is into FLEX 2.0 and it's spreading fast -- I'm an unofficial "evangelist" for Flash --- and for 4th of July, I'm going to warn everyone of the dangers of trusting sparklers too close to their eyes -- WARNING, WARNING only works on Dindows full of security holes...use Java FLASHERS they're cooler and they got an infusion of $20 Million from a lawbreaker...his name is...well I mentioned him above.

Just sit back and watch the FLEX 2.0 show and build a long-term solution with a Partner that CAN BE TRUSTED client and server.  I'm finally excited about development again.

I'm 38; CS maj. lots of experience with Mick Softy (again that gangster guy) and I'd say the next 10 years of the development part of my life are dedicated to helping Adobe win the upcoming "War for the Desktop [mobile top]".

As Dvorak said "They're now an Albatross".  Ha, that was my nick name in track and field when I ran an 8:52 2 mile and broke a 17 year old freshman record.  But I don't think Dvorak was complimenting the gangster who's getting old and will soon face his creator.

I loved seeing Bono on Conan kind of avoiding any real association with Mick Softy.  Bono has been at it for years, the nerd steps up and gives so little relatively and in such short notice (good for Africa, but as Jesus said "This women [who gave 2 cents] gave more than all of you because she gave all she had).

Sparkles fade away slowly; But Flashes leave an image.

Truth be told, I plan on releasing a lot more truth should it be allowed.

And I have much more public information besides that.

I've already been threatened personally and dangerously, I have nothing to lose by putting out the truth.  Softy is going down and money can't buy you love -- well it bought you something...and it'll be cashed in soon enough by time.

-r


Matt Chotin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Update: we’ve worked with Jim off-list to resolve his issues.
 
If anyone else runs into probs dealing with support, service, or sales please let me know.
 
Matt
 

From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Robson
Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 4:00 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [flexcoders] Is Adobe a reasonable business partner?
 
I’ve been developing in Flash and CF for years, so I have some experience dealing with Macromedia, but I’ve never had to deal with Adobe until now.
 
So far, my impression is that the Adobe developers are great (although most of the ones I’m aware of probably worked for Macromedia). However, I am not having good experiences with the customer service or sales personnel.
 
Has anyone on the list had experience dealing with Adobe as a business partner? Flex is a very cool product, but I don’t think it’s good to tolerate an unresponsive or arrogant vendor. What are your impressions?
 
 

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