Re: [flexcoders] WebOrb for Rails

[John C. Bland II]

You make interesting points and I agree Adobe should think/act bigger in terms of other languages. Microsoft is even going it with .NET (IronPython, Ruby.NET; community driven but MSFT is "supporting" them/talking about them). 

 
I don't agree with every point though. WebORB is a competitor to FDS. Forget the implementation. The outcome is the same, right? That's all that matters. At least this is my opinion. If WebORB works just as good as FDS, I'd stick with ORB simply because I can change my backend and my front-end stay the same. 

 
I have yet to get it working (only tried once while I was in another preso so that doesn't count; lol) but I am highly interested in the Rails integration.
 
Anyone open to give a preso on WebORB (with any backend language it supports) I can supply the Breeze room. :-) (hit me offlist) 
On 10/4/06, Clint Modien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:






I love how much buzz WebOrb is getting.  
 
Adobe is trying to keep the price of their java/flash remoting server high.  Which is understandable.  They need to make money on the product or we'll all be out of jobs.  (Well I would be anyway.)  But if Adobe were to aquire WebOrb how much do you think the .NET version would be?  Would the ROR and PHP versions be GPL? 

 
Anyway licensing costs aside... Adobe is not making a .net version... as far as i know wondertwin (.net fds) was still born in 04'.  I do however feel that Adobe is and has been making an enourmous mistake by only supporting Java/CF. How do they expect to reach a million developers by only supporting Java/CF? 

 
Adobe needs to hold up WebOrb to the public and say... "Look Flex/Flash/Apollo can support remote objects for multiple backends!!!"  WebOrb isn't even producing a Java remoting implementation to stay out of Adobe's space and allow them to capitalize on the Java market of the large corporations.  WEBORB IS NOT A COMPETITOR TO FDS BECAUSE WEBORB DOES NOT SUPPORT JAVA.  IT COMPLEMENTS IT.  Why isn't WebOrb all over the dev center?  Why isn't Adobe pushing it?  

 
How many developers in the world use Java, CF, .NET, PHP, Ruby ??  75% ?
 
How many people is that in the world?  50 million?
 
On 10/4/06, Allen Riddle <
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I've been looking at The Midnight Coder's WebOrb for Rails and I'm very impressed. Has Adobe given any thought to hiring these developers so they could get these implementations ported into Adobe's Flex Data Services? I know Adobe's working on a .NET implementation, but getting a Ruby implementation would be fantastic. 

 




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Thanks Seth. I should have read the docs. :)... "Preserves the class (type) of an object when the object is encoded in Action Message Format 
(AMF)." I didn't know it was AMF specific.It /would/ be great to see some more support for this kind of thing. In the past we've done things like...response.__proto__ = User.prototype;Function(User).call(response); 
var user: User = User(response);Where response is the parsed anonymous object from the web service and User is the type. Now, I'm having to manually iterate the anonymous object and populate an instance of the type. 
best,PaulSeth Hodgson wrote:> Hi Paul,>> registerClassAlias(...) is used by the Flash Player to drive AMF serialization/deserialization. In the web service scenario, you're not getting back AMF formatted data so this built-in function doesn't help out. 
>> For now, you'll need to write your own helper classes that take the e4x formatted result from your web service invocation and use it to create a typed instance(s) of your choosing.>> Streamlining this process is on our roadmap. 
>> Best,> Seth>> ________________________________________> From: 
flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Paul Spitzer> Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006 10:13 AM 
> To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com> Subject: Re: [flexcoders] SOAP Web Services and registerClassAlias 
>> Or, a little less specific... is there a way to get the Web Service > classes to return typed objects?>> Paul Spitzer wrote:> >> Anyone know if there a way to use registerClassAlias with Web Services 
>> to get typed objects back?>>>>>>>> >> >>>> 



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