FYI, Apollo will have application signing
________________________________ From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John C. Bland II Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 8:43 PM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Bit Off topic: Microsoft Vista VS Apollo/Flex/Flash Vista isn't -vs- Apollo/Flex/Flash. Here's the breakdown: WPF vs Apollo (and swf wrappers) WPF/E vs Flex/Flash I didn't read your entire post but I wanted to add that clarification. The Expression family isn't the whole round trip. You build WPF apps, most of the time at least, with Visual Studio. Expression has GREAT integration between the products. You start as a designer creating the interface (with full XAML code exported), move to Interactive Designer and add a few mod's (maybe even some code), then use the same code in Visual Studio to tie in data and everything else. Graphics and everything are all in code. Very nicely done...seriously. My opinion as to how they compare: WPF -vs- Apollo * WPF will probably blow Apollo out of the water in terms of system integration. Apollo has a few things that integrate into the OS but being cross platform somewhat prevents it from fully integrating like WPF. Keep in mind...WPF is .NET so you have great control over Windows. * Apollo easily wins at cross platform. * Apollo wins at ease of use/creation. WPF isn't terribly difficult but for normal .NET developers not used to control over the UI that WPF gives, it can be a bit daunting. * The power of WPF apps wins. Native database support, app signing (which I don't think Apollo will have), etc. WPF/E -vs- Flash/Flex * No argument...WPF/E has a LONG way to go. Flash/Flex wins without a doubt. Nothing further here. :-) On 11/26/06, Sebastian Zarzycki <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: camlinaeizerous wrote: "Microsoft Expressions" a new development tool reminded a lot of people of flash studio and it seems like a copy of flash with A Microsoft label on top. Although I didn't get to see a lot of the under working just a quick over view, essentially by default the time line is on the bottom drawing tools on the right and library on the left. It seemed so similar during the overview I heard people actually laughing saying it looked like flash. however looking at the code that was generated and the movements and transitions were basically generated with java. Actually, Microsoft Expression is new Microsoft Platform for "artistic" development. It consist of three tools : Web Designer (codename Quartz) - which is a replacement for Office Front Page (there's no FrontPage in Office 2007)., Graphic Designer (codename Acrylic), and Interactive Designer (codename Sparkle). You were talking about the last one, I guess. I'm checking expression's website for a year, to get some data for flex and apollo comparisions. Been playing around with Sparkle few hours. There are definitely some cool things about it, but I, for instance, don't like the incoherent (but nice) interface and I fail to understand how to build RIA using old timeline concept. Sparkle is meant to be a tool for designers, not coders. Let's see how they will cooperate in future. Today, as a developer from java world, I can quickly learn how to build an working and functional app in Flex. I have great troubles with achieving the same with Sparkle. -- | Sebastian Zarzycki / rat[tkin] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | i'm a little lost in this postmodern space | gg:#2692696 / icq:#264185739 irc :#tool #ot-oa / skype:rattkin -- John C. Bland II Chief Geek Katapult Media, Inc. - www.katapultmedia.com <http://www.katapultmedia.com> --- Biz Blog - http://blogs.katapultmedia.com/jb2 <http://blogs.katapultmedia.com/jb2> Personal Blog - http://blog.blandfamilyonline.com <http://blog.blandfamilyonline.com> http://www.lifthimhigh.com <http://www.lifthimhigh.com> - "Christian Products for Those Bold Enough to Wear Them" Home of FMUG.az - http://www.gotoandstop.org <http://www.gotoandstop.org> Home of AZCFUG - http://www.azcfug.org <http://www.azcfug.org>
