You never said anything about this in your previous email. All you said
in your previous email was, basically, that if you couldn't run dll's
Apollo was useless. My response was targeted toward that.
Even considering your new statements, I still stand by my original
opinion that the value is being cross-platform. Just because 80% of
business applications are built on a proprietary platform doesn't mean
that it's the best idea to continue building on such a limiting
platform. Don't get me wrong... Apollo is also a closed platform, but at
least it will run on Windows, Mac and Linux. If a company isn't
interested in investing in a project that has these potential long-term
advantages, then Apollo might not be for them anyway.
If a company is interested in sticking with Windows proprietary
software, I don't see the advantages of Apollo over, say, VB... Or just
sticking with the software they're currently using.
Shan
Jason Hawryluk wrote:
So your saying it's better for a company to re create the wheel then
to leverage their existing investments. 80%+ of business applications
are specific to windows not leveraging that investment is just stupid.
So now if I have a client that wants to leverage Apollo I have to let
them know their going to need to dump everything they have built as
it’s not cross platform, and even though they are a windows platform
company they really need cross platform.
I had never stated just target win dll's, and I had meant a value
proposition for business. Do you honestly think that company is going
to look at Apollo and say “sweet now I can target the other 5% of the
market. Let’s dump everything and start over”?
I’m totally missing your logic here.
jason
-----Message d'origine-----
*De :* flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] la part de* Shannon Hicks
*Envoyé :* vendredi 2 février 2007 18:31
*À :* flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
*Objet :* Re: [flexcoders] Apollo features
The real value of Apollo would be cross-platform applications. I
can't run your DLL's on my Mac. If you need DLL's, use VB to build
your app, and don't tease me with the false hope of a
cross-platform application by building with Apollo and then
ruining it with windows-only code. :)
Shan
Jason Hawryluk wrote:
I have to agree here, if we can't extend it with our own dll's
then what is the real value proposition for Apollo.
I think support for dll’s is important (com, managed, other).
Allowing us to reuse our existing middle tiers/frameworks, and
use Apollo to create engaging user experiences.
jason
-----Message d'origine-----
*De :* flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] la part de* Jerome
Clarke a.k.a sinatosk
*Envoyé :* vendredi 2 février 2007 16:54
*À :* flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
*Objet :* Re: [flexcoders] Apollo features
To be honest... all this talk I've been hearing about Apollo
being used as desktop applications using web technologies...
I would kinda expect that you can launch exe passing
parameters ( like CLI style or something similar ), talk to
dynamic libraries like .dll ( Windows ), .so ( Linux )...
kinda surprised it doesn't support any of that yet... yet
they call it desktop applications... it's more like their own
browser in my opinion... I doubt this is how Apollo will be
all the way. But if it does... can't say people will move to
it quickly while MDM Zinc is there being able to do all of
that ( regardless Zinc is free or not ) and WPF/E
I had plans to write applications where I can use SQLite,
MySQL, GD2, run servers using TCP/IP on specific ports and ip
addresses, video codecs like divx, xvid and others... if all
I can do is talk to the file system then I may aswell stick
with Flex 2... The only use I can see that for is for offline
storage applications like the ebay application and Amazon
application... Thats what alot of people want to do anyways
but thats not the only thing they want to do...
but then again I'm assuming quite abit here... I havn't got
full info about Apollo... but what I've been hearing about
WPF/E compared to Apollo... I'm assuming Apollo can't do some
of the things I said above and I'm not interested in WPF/E.
As far as I know... only works on Windows but I still watch
it to see what people say about it... I like to be cross
platform
I use Flex 2 alot for the things I'm doing now. I don't think
I will be using Apollo as much as I thought I predicted as I
do with Flex 2
On 2/2/07, *Kevin Newman* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
Tom Chiverton wrote:
> Does anyone or has read somewhere, if Apollo will allow
you to launch native
> local applications ?
>
As far as I know, Apollo is using webkit, does this
include the ability
to run other plugins besides Flash (like Java)?
If so, can you use one of those other plugins (java, or
perhaps a custom
plugin) to access native dlls and such by communicating
from Flash to
Javascript, then to the other plugin in Javascript?
Kevin N.
