I guess I'm the agressive one. I've seen other products where former 
practictioners of product A have moved to rival company B and return to their 
former haunts to help out company A's customers with their insight.

You would have to be naive to consider that the product manager for 
WPF/Silverlight is only interested in answering technical questions when the 
future of his technology depends on dragging Flex developers screaming and 
shouting towards his product set.

I'm sure Scott is a great guy, but while he has that big desk at Microsoft, his 
life has to be oriented towards pushing his technology, however subtly he 
choses to do it. I don't think this is particularly subtle, even if others see 
no harm in it.

If some flex user has some issues with silverlight integration and someone who 
knows about it chips in great. When that's the product manager for a competing 
product, well I'm not so happy. I've seen it done before.

Paul
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2008 1:20 PM
  Subject: Re: [flexcoders] The different between generial Flex 3 and Flex 3 
Profesional?


  Wow! 

  I'm amazed to see the meandering (and aggressiveness of some folks) within 
this thread....

  Paul - Scott offered a simple straight forward answer to a question (i.e. a 
informational and meaningful post). So....because someone works for Microsoft 
you choose to lambast their writings and viewpoints? Damn, that's down right 
silly...



  From: Paul Andrews 
  Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2008 7:06 AM
  To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com 
  Subject: Re: [flexcoders] The different between generial Flex 3 and Flex 3 
Profesional?



  Microsoft could always avoid mistakes by licencing Flash and  Flex technology 
from Adobe..  ;-)

  Scott, I won't beat the drum, since I'm probably alone in thinking this: It's 
difficullt to see posts by a Microsoft Product Manager as being intended to 
help the flex community. Silverlite and whatever else people may choose to use 
- fine, but effectively promoting product while 'informing' the flex community, 
I find problematic.

  At least put your full title on your posts - don't be shy about being the  
WPF/Silverlight Product Manager.

  I know that you have stated that you are no longer a product Evangelist. I 
think the only thing that has happened is that the evangelising has become more 
subtle.

  Ironically, as a Flex developer I have a feeling I'm about to get beat up for 
this post.

  Paul

  (I'd also add that if I were sitting on a Microsoft forum (shudder), I'd feel 
equally peeved if Adobe bods were sticking their nose in there)

    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Scott Barnes 
    To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com 
    Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 8:18 PM
    Subject: Re: [flexcoders] The different between generial Flex 3 and Flex 3 
Profesional?


    heh, that would be an assumption. I use this forum to see what the average 
joe is having trouble with so that I can ensure we don't repeat the same 
mistakes, think of this as a great ear to the grown forum. I gave up my Flex 
days in 2007 ...

    Anyway.. just setting the record straght around some misconceptions around 
our products, do what you will with that.


    On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 9:11 AM, Paul Andrews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

      I'm always nice and MS marketing never sleeps.

      It's good to see that even Microsoft management are coding in Flex these 
      days.. ;-)

      Have a good weekend.

      Paul 



      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "Troy Gilbert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
      To: <flexcoders@yahoogroups.com>

      Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 4:36 PM
      Subject: Re: [flexcoders] The different between generial Flex 3 and Flex 
3 
      Profesional?


      >> Just for a moment I thought this was the flex coders forum rather than 
an
      >> extension of the MS marketing effort..
      >
      > Okay, be nice, it's on-topic... the thread had lead to a question of
      > whether it was possible to develop in Silverlight for free (in the
      > same way its possible to develop in Flex for free). Scott was able to
      > provide an authoritative answer on that, which is good, because it was
      > suggested that it was not an option and that one would have to
      > purchase Expression. I think the "marketing effort" in Scott's e-mail
      > was little to non-existent.
      >
      > Troy.
      >

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